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#Post#: 28460--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tablets and Handheld Devices (Formerly the Cintiq Thread)
By: Chiprocks1 Date: May 23, 2014, 5:52 pm
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Thanks for the link. Gonna read it now.
Hey Neumatic, do you know of any site that has a complete list
of all (or at least a good chunk) of Drawing Tablets from
cheapest to the most expensive? Mac and Windows based tablets
that is? I'm really looking for alternatives here since SP3
dropped the ball big time. There are so many brands and models
that I'd like to be able to go through them from a list and
start narrowing down what is possible for me to get. I can't
find any kind of list other than the 'Most expensive" brands
which defeats the purpose of find the right one for me.
#Post#: 28461--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tablets and Handheld Devices (Formerly the Cintiq Thread)
By: Neumatic Date: May 23, 2014, 5:58 pm
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Actually, I would like a list of that as well... Having a draw-y
computer is on my list of "wants," a nice desktop computer to
use as a workstation.
#Post#: 28462--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tablets and Handheld Devices (Formerly the Cintiq Thread)
By: Chiprocks1 Date: May 23, 2014, 6:09 pm
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[center]Which Drawing Tablet To Buy for Beginners & Professional
Artists
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6UBIUC2JhI
[/center]
I just found this on YouTube. Gonna watch it now and then come
back and post my thoughts on any potential winners for me to
look into. The video runs about 18 minutes. Not sure it's gonna
hit everything out there. But it's a start. My criteria for what
I will eventually get is that it has to be a Touch Tablet (that
means on Bamboo or Intuos Graphite, which I got years ago and
hated). The other criteria is that the tablet has to be able to
run Photoshop, Illustrator, Corel Painter, After Affects and
Premiere, Art Rage. What really p*ssed me off about the SP3 Demo
when they brought up the guy from Adobe to "show off" what it
could do is that he didn't do sh*t. He thinks that using your
fingers to pinch and expand the canvas and rotate is enough to
sell me on it. When he "drew" on the tab, all he did was
scribble with no line weight. That guy should be shot.
#Post#: 28463--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tablets and Handheld Devices (Formerly the Cintiq Thread)
By: Neumatic Date: May 23, 2014, 6:12 pm
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All these years later, I still find myself drooling in desire
for a ModBook. Basically, before tablets took off, a company
took Macbooks and flipped the screen over and put a WACOM screen
on top: the result being a tablet that runs Photoshop,
Illustrator, whatever. Still don't understand why we can't have
that mainstream.
#Post#: 28464--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tablets and Handheld Devices (Formerly the Cintiq Thread)
By: Chiprocks1 Date: May 23, 2014, 7:23 pm
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[center]Wholesale LCD Drawing Tablets
HTML http://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-lcd-drawing-tablets.html
[/center]
Skip that video. It sucks. He spends too much time on pad
tablets (what I DON'T want) and the rest of the time on the most
expensive tablets (what I CAN'T afford). I did however find this
wholesale link to LCD Tablets. There's about 40 of them on the
page. I will spend time and go through each one. Immediately,
the price point is very doable. Just a question of what the
machine can do for me. Never heard of the Wholesale site. So,
can't say much about them being a trusted vendor or not. But I'm
just looking for a list that can get me started. This seems to
be a step in the right direction.
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Re: Tablets and Handheld Devices (Formerly the Cintiq Thread)
By: Chiprocks1 Date: May 23, 2014, 7:25 pm
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I'm STILL p*ssed that Microsoft would swap out the Industry
leader in pen technology (WACOM) for N-Trig! F*ck!! Still gonna
hit the MS store when they have floor demos.
#Post#: 28472--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tablets and Handheld Devices (Formerly the Cintiq Thread)
By: Chiprocks1 Date: May 24, 2014, 1:36 pm
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Still waiting for people to give 'Real' reviews on the SP3. As
of now, EVERYONE is just regurgitating the same specs given out
at the Conference. They all come off as mindless robots that
can't think for themselves. With the amount of free SP3's that
were given out to those in attendance as well as a handful of
artists bloggers, I would have thought that one, if not 2 or 3,
would have given us a in depth review about what the N-Trig can
and can't do.
#Post#: 28473--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tablets and Handheld Devices (Formerly the Cintiq Thread)
By: Chiprocks1 Date: May 24, 2014, 2:02 pm
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[center]Surface Pro 3: An Artist Review
HTML http://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2014/05/23/surface-pro-3
[/center]
Okay, I don't know who this guy is, but I managed to find one
review from the POV of an artist who's intent is to create on
SP3. He seems happy with the N-Trig tech. But I really wished he
had been a bit more thorough by using a variety of programs from
Photoshop to Painter to Artrage and more. Having read his review
about the pen in particular, I am a bit more optimistic. But
that optimism came crashing down when you pointed out another
huge hurdle that has nothing to do with the pen, but everything
to do with the new placement of the Microsoft logo/button.
Because of the magnetic strip at the bottom that holds the
keyboard in place, they moved the logo to the right hand side
(which I already knew about while watching the conference). What
I didn't think of is that for right handed artists like myself,
resting your hand on the right edge (on the logo itself) is
going to activate and send you back to the Desktop.
Can you imagine how f*cking annoying that's going to get when
you are invested in an art project of use only to constantly
being kicked out of whatever program you're in? Good God! Do
they not do any kind of quality control on their products at MS
anymore? Have they ever done quality control? That's a pretty
big issue for anyone. They reviewer does say that it can be
disabled, but doing so will in effect disable the functionality
of the program itself. Ugh! I really hope these and the other
issues he brings up can be fixed sooner, rather than later. His
review is an eye opener. I will reserve judgement until I get to
try it out myself.
Neumatic, do you have a Microsoft Store in your neck of the
woods that you can go check out the the Surface Pro 3?
#Post#: 28474--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tablets and Handheld Devices (Formerly the Cintiq Thread)
By: Neumatic Date: May 24, 2014, 3:47 pm
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Nope, no Microsoft store... and I don't really have enough
experience with screen drawing to give you an accurate account
of how one would work (I don't rock that kind of hardware in my
day-to-day).
I absolutely hear you about how the software issue. With my old
Mac i could boot Classic and use my old OS 8 and 9 programs
(like Nisus and Photoshop 5.5) but not with my new one. I
notice that a couple artists and writers... people who use their
computers to create, find a point they like and stick with it.
Remember when... was it Final Cut Pro? Final Cut Pro was this
really popular video editing program for Mac and then they
changed it all around and it p*ssed off the core group of users
because it was basically a massive downgrade, going for a wider
audience instead of making it better for their primary audience.
I honestly think the answer to this is open source software,
people making the software they want with the capabilities they
want. There ARE problems with this approach, obviously, but if
you're creative, the tools you use should be in your hands and
not subject to sudden and arbitrary changes. And there could
definitely stand to be some competition, you know... I HATE
Microsoft Word. Absolutely hate it, never use it, I don't even
have it on my computer, imagine that! And everyone uses it,
it's almost a requirement. There used to be a bunch of other
word processing programs and they could interact with each
other, but that all went away. I sincerely wish I had a
fantastic alternative to Word for word processing (I just use
Textedit and Writeroom, which is a Textedit skin that makes it
look like I'm typing ona n old Apple ][).
#Post#: 28476--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tablets and Handheld Devices (Formerly the Cintiq Thread)
By: Chiprocks1 Date: May 24, 2014, 4:02 pm
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I'm all for Open Source, but with MS pretty much dictating
everything, I'm sure they would have some sort of firmware
upgrade that would cripple anything that wasn't manufactured out
of the box. I just wished the Pro 3 would have delivered what I
had been waiting for the past 4-5 months. I knew they were on
the verge of a new Surface so I could justify not running out
and picking up SP2. But all that went out the window the moment
I heard of the switch. Like I said, I'm still going to give it a
shot personally and see how it feels. Word has it that the
version of Photoshop that runs on the new Surface is custom made
for this and the touch tech. It's vague and I haven't been able
to find anything else to back up that info.
I wonder who is gonna win the race to please me. Will an
Artist(s) be able to upload a video onto YouTube showing off the
pen using a bunch of different programs or will the Microsoft
Store get floor demos out before then? The only store I have
here is about a 15 minute drive away. It's not bad, it's just
that I don't like going out in that particular direction and
find it to be a waste of time. I'll make the exception this
time. Well, as far as you going to a store and trying it out
Neumatic, there of course will be alternatives like Staples and
Best Buy. I'm sure you have those around your neighborhood. I
only asked about the MS Store as they would of course get the
demos before anyone else. You should still play around with one.
The only time I've been able to play with any of the high-end
WACOM's like the Cintiq 24hd is at the San Diego Comic Con. They
have a booth there every year and it's always fun to use it and
depressing having to walk away from it know that it's just WAY
out of my league.
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