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Tablets and Handheld Devices (Formerly the Cintiq Thread)
By: ChipRawks Date: August 15, 2011, 12:00 pm
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[CENTER]Cintiq: 21UX (2nd Gen)
HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inrl7JgnYK4
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I already have the Wacom Intunos Tablet and it's okay as it was
meant to be a temporary fill-in. I've had it for maybe 5 years
or so. At the time, it was really all I could afford and back
then Tablets were pricey and the Cintiq were insanely out of my
budget. Back then it was along the lines of 4-5k. It's still a
bit pricey but the cost is cut in half now for the 21 Inch
Monitor. I will be checking daily to see what kind of deals I
can find on Ebay or Craigslist.
Why do I need this? Well for starters, I don't like drawing or
coloring using tablets because I like to look at my hand/pencil
when I'm drawing. No matter how much time I've spent looking at
the monitor and drawing off site, it's still not a natural fit
for me. So, time to shell out the big bucks.
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Re: Cintiq
By: ChipRawks Date: August 15, 2011, 12:05 pm
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FYI, I am looking for alternatives to the Cintiq if they exist.
If there are other brands that allow you to draw and paint
directly on the screen, I am willing to check it out and weigh
the pros and cons regarding price and specs. If anyone knows
anything, give me your thoughts.
#Post#: 719--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cintiq
By: jinn366 Date: August 15, 2011, 12:51 pm
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I don't really know much about them other than I can't afford
one :lol:
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Re: Cintiq
By: ChipRawks Date: August 15, 2011, 12:53 pm
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[quote author=jinn366 link=topic=191.msg719#msg719
date=1313430691]
I don't really know much about them other than I can't afford
one :lol:
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Haha. No sh*t huh.
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Re: Cintiq
By: ChipRawks Date: August 15, 2011, 12:55 pm
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[CENTER]Fujitsu Stylistic ST5112 Tablet
HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYzsj2YMYAE
This looks interesting. I'm down for something that is robust
(or as close as you can get to that of a Cintiq) and have the
mobility that comes with an iPad.
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Re: Cintiq
By: Keith Draws Date: August 15, 2011, 12:59 pm
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I wouldn't like to be without mine, I've had it about 3 years
now. I have the 20 version which they don't make anymore. The
only issue is I have to use it fairly upright because it gets
hot. I've read in forums that it does not get too hot. This is
not true. If I have it at 20 to 30 degrees angle , bearing in
mind I use it for around 12 to 14 hours a day, it gets hot
enough to burn my hand. Having it at 60 to 70 degrees the heat
stays at the top of the monitor so so long as my hand is in the
lower 2 thirds of the monitor its bearable. When I got this
there was a Japanese alternative for less than half the price
but the monitor was only capable of displaying thousands of
colours (I always thought that was a graphics card issue) so
perhaps it was a mis print. Anyway I have'nt seen any
alternatives recently other than self builds.
If you can afford one its worth the cash I think. I save a
fortune in paper pencils and materials. Even my sketching I do
on the cintiq. The down side is you never have originals to
sell.
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Re: Cintiq
By: ChipRawks Date: August 15, 2011, 1:05 pm
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[quote author=Keith Draws link=topic=191.msg722#msg722
date=1313431156]
I wouldn't like to be without mine, I've had it about 3 years
now. I have the 20 version which they don't make anymore. The
only issue is I have to use it fairly upright because it gets
hot. I've read in forums that it does not get too hot. This is
not true. If I have it at 20 to 30 degrees angle , bearing in
mind I use it for around 12 to 14 hours a day, it gets hot
enough to burn my hand. Having it at 60 to 70 degrees the heat
stays at the top of the monitor so so long as my hand is in the
lower 2 thirds of the monitor its bearable. When I got this
there was a Japanese alternative for less than half the price
but the monitor was only capable of displaying thousands of
colours (I always thought that was a graphics card issue) so
perhaps it was a mis print. Anyway I have'nt seen any
alternatives recently other than self builds.
If you can afford one its worth the cash I think. I save a
fortune in paper pencils and materials. Even my sketching I do
on the cintiq. The down side is you never have originals to
sell.
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I got to play around with this at Comic Con this year. It is
pretty sick. But I really didn't ask a whole lot of questions
other than "how do you do this?. What is this for?". But now
that I'm really looking to get this or an alternative, I'm
kicking myself for not asking more meaningful questions.
As for getting hot, is this a common thing with your set? How
long can you work before the heat becomes noticeable? Any
breakdowns in performance since you've had it? How reliable are
refurbished ones? How much does it weigh? Do you move it around
and work wherever you want or are basically married to your
office? So many questions I know I have but can't think of at
the moment.
The downside is definitely no originals to sell. But for me it
will be for coloring and painting more the drawing, even though
i know I will do some of that too.
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Re: Cintiq
By: Keith Draws Date: August 15, 2011, 1:32 pm
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With those tablet PC's I think you need to check how many levels
of pressure sensitivity they have and how accurate the pointer
is. They look good though I must admit. There are others around
as well. If you are near dealerships I think it would be wise to
go out and try them out with Photoshop and manga studio. I'm
sure they would let you considering the costs involved.
#Post#: 727--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cintiq
By: ChipRawks Date: August 15, 2011, 1:35 pm
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[quote author=Keith Draws link=topic=191.msg726#msg726
date=1313433147]
With those tablet PC's I think you need to check how many levels
of pressure sensitivity they have and how accurate the pointer
is. They look good though I must admit. There are others around
as well. If you are near dealerships I think it would be wise to
go out and try them out with Photoshop and manga studio. I'm
sure they would let you considering the costs involved.
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The closet dealer of any kind here is Staples and they don't
have anything like what we are discussing here. Best Buy doesn't
have anything either. I'm not even entirely sure Fry's has
anything. I know that when it comes down to buying which ever
product I go with, it's going to be through Amazon most likely.
#Post#: 728--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cintiq
By: Keith Draws Date: August 15, 2011, 1:41 pm
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I spent 300 USD on a custom made flight case. Its right at the
limit for hand luggage but they let me carry it on and off of
planes. Its too heavy to have on your lap or move around easily
and too delicate to risk it (hence the flight case). It gets hot
pretty quick, around 30 minutes I'd say. Mine has been reliable
up to now. I know nothing about refurbished ones. The pen nibs
last about 4 months with constant use but are cheap enough to
replace. Unfortunately I cant get them here since they wont
deliver and am trying to find a solution to that. The five I
have are now very worn and wont last much longer. It swings
around if you want it to has useful function buttons
(programmable on each side and zoom sliders on the back). the
new ones have more features to I think. All in all well thought
out but still very expensive considering its not a Tablet PC but
just a tablet screen.
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