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The Super Hero Movie Cliche thread
By: Mac Date: December 9, 2012, 2:04 pm
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[glow=red,2,300]The Super Hero Movie Cliche thread[/glow]
Guys, can't believe I'm starting this thread
So I who knows very little about the super hero world, my only
observations are from movies.
It seems when coincidental that the creation, formation, born,
evolution of a comic super hero develops at the same time a
super villain materializes
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Re: The Super Hero Movie Cliche thread
By: Chiprocks1 Date: December 9, 2012, 2:23 pm
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I was actually going to start this thread after my Spider-Man
Marathon. As much as you hate the genre, great minds........
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As for cliche scenes, anything that isn't "natural", i.e. born
with it (Superman
HTML http://pennycan.createaforum.com/dvd's-blu-rays/superman-the-movie-(1978)/msg6449/#msg6449),<br
/>be it Hero or Villain, they all share a common element.....
The Lab Effect - All powers of the Hero / Villain originates in
a Lab, where their experiments go horribly wrong (Hulk
HTML http://pennycan.createaforum.com/dvd's-blu-rays/the-incredible-hulk/msg7229/#msg7229,<br
/>Doc Ock
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/>Green Goblin
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/>Of course there are variations that are "simplistic" in that a
ll
it takes is a spider bite. A good alternative is Daredevil who
is blinded by toxic waste, but doesn't have super powers like
Spidey or Superman, but just harnesses his other senses to get
an advantage over others.
The Damsel In Distress - Every Hero has girl that he is in love
with and in every case, she is in harms way. Well, Daredevil has
a good twist in that his object of affection comes in the form
of ass kicking Elektra .
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Re: The Super Hero Movie Cliche thread
By: Chiprocks1 Date: December 9, 2012, 2:26 pm
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Supernatural Effect - Another variation to being "created" or
born with powers. For prime example of this, look no further
than The Crow
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Re: The Super Hero Movie Cliche thread
By: Neumatic Date: December 9, 2012, 3:17 pm
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Actually, hating the genre will probably mean you find issues
that people who like the movies might miss.
The Voiceover. Who am I? Are you sure you want to know? Why
are you hearing my thoughts. Because the sidekick doesn't
appear very often these days, and that character was basically
created so that the hero had someone he could TALK to.
The hero and villain are typically the sides of the same coin,
sometimes having origins directly or indirectly tied to each
other. That's usually to keep stuff simple, but it only works
once. It seems very odd when the sequel rolls around and you
need a new guy for the hero to fight. Lex Luthor is an
interesting counterpoint because for a long time or in a lot of
iterations he wasn't connected to Superman's origins. But he's
so overused in Superman, especially the movies, that I will have
a big amount of respect for the new movies if they keep him the
heck out of it.
The Lab Effect is big in the Marvel universe since most of their
titles come from the 60s and the big rise of Sci-Fi.
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Re: The Super Hero Movie Cliche thread
By: Mac Date: December 9, 2012, 3:48 pm
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A costume... I know this sound like a no duh, but it is
absolutely essential in the story, if not for the identity
alone. There was a recent article I read on these costumes. Some
that worked because of the movie and despite the comic and
others that helped bring the movie down (Green Hornet)
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Re: The Super Hero Movie Cliche thread
By: Mac Date: December 9, 2012, 5:48 pm
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The villain somehow is able to get a whole slew of henchmen,
sometimes an army.
When fighting, the army of henchmen attack one at a time.
Circling the super hero from all directions
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Re: The Super Hero Movie Cliche thread
By: Neumatic Date: December 9, 2012, 10:12 pm
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At least The Dark Knight showed how the Joker got his goons-- he
just took over the gangs and everyone was too scared to do
anything about it.
Japan has a bunch of tropes of their own, especially with the
movies. Kamen Rider, Casshern, and others are typically undead
corpses brought back to life by science. Even Astro Boy
qualifies, albeit as a robot and not a zombie. This frees them
familial bonds and obligations and allows them to be free to do
battle, even though they're always pacifist and only fight to
protect something. And while we mentioned that heroes and
villains are intertwined, the heros and bad guys usually have
the same exact origin, and in fact the hero might be a breakaway
member of the group.
Food comes up pretty much, in a series a small restaurant is
usually a location, and the her not only cooks but also has a
religious devotion to a high standard of food. The women don't
cook, but they're also marginalized in a way that puts American
super heroes to shame. It's pretty crazy.
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