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       The Clintons and Scientology
       By: hellboy Date: March 1, 2016, 9:53 am
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       Scientology is not a church, it is a dangerous cult based on
       brainwash-techniques and oppression, a criminal mob that has
       it's own secret service to threaten and put out opponents.
       Scientology-founder L. Ron Hubbard wrote that church enemies may
       "be deprived of property or injured by any means by any
       Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May
       be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed."
       Low-ranking members of the cult are refused medical treatment.
       They are instead accused of not being "clear" enough, and
       therefore put into concentration-camps to dwell in pain and
       agony until they die. Members are deprived from their friends
       and families who refuse to become members of the cult or who
       leave it. Low ranking members are forced to give all their
       possessions to the cult, and work like machines without an own
       will for their masters and their profit. Scientology provides
       anti-drug-treatment
  HTML http://crackpots.us/
       and educational facilities that are not
       recognizable as Scientology-operated. People go there to get
       cured or educated and end up as brainwashed slaves of mobsters.
       The Clintons and Scientology have a long history of
       collaboration. Scientology has funded the election-campaigns of
       both Bill and Hillary. Several actors, all of them
       Scientology-members, funded Hillary Clinton's campaign for
       Senate with over $70.000,-, Tom Cruise presented Albert Gore
       with $5.000,-, and John Travolta along with some other
       Scientology-members gave a Gala-Diner in favor of the democrats
       (entry-fee: $25.000,-).
       In return right after Bill got elected in 1993 Scientology got
       Tax-Exempt status like a religion, after the IRC had refused
       that for decades, despite the mafia-methods used against its
       employees
  HTML http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Cowen/essays/nytimes.html.
       The New
       York Times reports: "The full story of the turnabout by the IRS
       has remained hidden behind taxpayer privacy laws for nearly four
       years. But an examination by The New York Times found that the
       exemption followed a series of unusual internal IRS actions that
       came after an extraordinary campaign orchestrated by Scientology
       against the agency and people who work there."
       On the basis of the IRS ruling, the State Department formally
       criticized Germany
  HTML http://m.state.gov/md24410.htm
       for discriminating against
       Scientologists. The German government regards the organization
       as a business, not a tax-exempt religion, the very position
       maintained for 25 years by the U.S. government.
       [quote="examiner"]How serious is Hillary and Bill Clinton's
       relationship with Scientology?
       The fact that Hillary Clinton has ties with Wall Street fat cats
       and shady international business interests has already been
       documented. The Daily Caller, in a Sunday piece, revealed that
       Hillary and, to a certain extent, Bill Clinton has some ties
       with the Church of Scientology. The story relates how Greg
       Mitchell, the head of a lobbying firm called The Mitchell Firm
       and a Scientologist, lobbied the Hillary Clinton State
       Department to enlist its support for what it calls religious
       freedom in foreign countries where the church is not recognized
       as a legitimate religion.
       Bill Clinton, as president, ordered the IRS to give Scientology
       tax-exempt status as a recognized church in the United States.
       The Clintons also have ties with Scientology through their
       relationships with Hollywood supporters who are members of the
       church, such as Tom Cruise and John Travolta, both of whom
       lobbied Bill Clinton when he was president on issues of interest
       to Scientology. The church is popular in the entertainment
       community.
       Scientology was created several decades ago by science fiction
       writer L. Ron Hubbard and is based on bizarre beliefs concerning
       psychotherapy and space aliens, as detailed by the Skeptical
       Inquirer. Some evidence suggests that Hubbard created the church
       as a money making scam. He is alleged to have said, “The way to
       make a million dollars is to start a religion." Hubbard never
       wrote this statement down, but the quote in various forms comes
       from multiple sources.
       More ominously, as the HBO documentary “Going Clear” documented,
       the Church of Scientology engaged in psychological and sometimes
       physical abuse of its members, an allegation the church has
       denied. The church has also engaged in vigorous “lawfare”
       against many of its critics, attempting to silence any adverse
       publicity in the media and on the Internet.
       The Daily Caller story has note revealed what if any service the
       State Department has rendered in response to the Church of
       Scientology’s lobbying efforts. The lobbying has continued after
       Clinton left the State Department when John Kerry took over as
       Secretary of State.[/quote]
  HTML http://www.examiner.com/article/how-serious-is-hillary-and-bill-clinton-s-relationship-with-scientology
       [quote="tmr"]Bill Clinton, Tom Cruise Plotted to Use Tony Blair
       to Gain Tax Breaks for Scientology
       Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair and his wife Cherie
       were targeted by Hollywood actor Tom Cruise and former President
       Bill Clinton to give tax breaks to the controversial Church of
       Scientology, it is revealed today.
       Clinton and Cruise plotted for months to overturn a legal ruling
       which refused to grant Scientology charity status in Britain. At
       one point the former President suggested he directly approached
       Cherie Blair for help as ‘she was a practising lawyer and would
       understand the details'.
       These astonishing claims were made by former Scientology second
       in command Marty Rathbun on German TV who described sitting in
       the room at the Scientology base in Clearwater, Florida in 2003
       with Tom Cruise when he called the former President. ‘It wasn’t
       just one call it was many’, Rathbun confirmed later.
       He said that the Hollywood star and the former President, then
       involved in raising funds for his own Clinton Foundation
       charity, spoke many times on how best to lobby the Prime
       Minister and his wife so that they could use their influence to
       change Scientology’s charity - and hence tax status - in
       Britain.
       ...
       Before he was given the award Cruise lobbied Clinton at every
       opportunity, meeting him for dinner at the Hollywood homes of
       director Steven Spielberg and producer David Geffen. He called
       him numerous times at his Foundation office in Harlem, New York,
       to work out the most effective strategy to overturn a 1999
       Charity Commission ruling that Scientology, founded by science
       fiction writer L Ron Hubbard in 1954, was not a charity and was
       not eligible for tax breaks.
       Rathbun, who was the Inspector General of the Religious
       Technology Centre until 2004, said that he would audit Cruise -
       the Scienotology equivalent to the confessional - and then he
       would call Clinton or his staff in Harlem. ‘There was a lot of
       back and forth’, he recalled. ‘At one point Clinton said to Tom
       that it would be better to go through Cherie Blair as she was a
       lawyer and had a tax background’.
       ...
       Scientology in Britain has a long and chequered past. In the
       1970s Harold Wilson’s government described the sect as ‘mafia
       like’ and put senior officials under surveillance. In 1975,
       internal correspondence from the Home Office said: ‘The Church
       of Scientology does not merely persuade people to part with
       their money. It is a harmful movement with an evil reputation.’
       It classified the group as ‘an organisation designed to make
       money, and perhaps also to gain power’ which targeted ‘the
       anxious, the lonely, the inadequate, the credulous and deluded’.
       In a High Court ruling in 1984, Judge Latey labelled the Church
       of Scientology a "cult", "corrupt, sinister and dangerous...out
       to capture people...and brainwash them."
       ...
       the whole story
  HTML http://www.themortonreport.com/celebrity/notables/exclusive-bill-clinton-tom-cruise-plotted-to-use-tony-blair-to-gain-tax-breaks-for-scientology/[/quote]
       [quote]Hillary Clinton wrote to CMU for Scientology asking them
       to fire Prof. David S. Touretzky
       "Greenway talked about how the Church [of Scientology] has
       gotten numerous letters sent to CMU about Touretzky including
       one from Hillary Clinton asking that he be fired, but CMU still
       stands behind him because they don’t care what he does on his
       free time."
       Mark "Marty" Rathbun: Scientology Infiltrates Carnegie Mellon
       University
  HTML http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2014/03/06/scientology-infiltrates-carnegie-mellon-university/
       The following is a report from Invest Aide OSA INT (Office of
       Special Affairs International, the propaganda and dirty tricks
       arm of David Miscavige’s church of Scientology International) on
       dealing with Scientology critic David S. Touretzky – professor
       at Carnegie Mellon University. Note that it is titled “DR”. That
       stands for Daily Report. There are dozens of these daily reports
       in OSA INT files on Touretzky. There are hundreds of such
       reports on more effective critics. There are thousands of these
       types of reports on those critics whom David Miscavige considers
       a threat to himself personally and who have withstood
       Scientology’s wrath over time. Ask yourself: should United
       States taxpayers be subsidizing an organization that spends its
       considerable dollars on such hijinks? And, what is with
       Scientology’s apparent predilection for inserting sex toys into
       their operations?
       full report
  HTML http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3131478/posts[/quote]
       Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
       Written and directed by Academy Award® winner Alex Gibney and
       based on the book by Pulitzer Prize winner Lawrence Wright,
       GOING CLEAR: SCIENTOLOGY AND THE PRISON OF BELIEF is a
       provocative tale of ego, exploitation and lust for power. The
       film profiles eight former members of the Church of Scientology,
       whose most prominent adherents include A-list Hollywood
       celebrities, shining a light on how the church cultivates true
       believers, detailing their experiences and what they are willing
       to do in the name of religion
  HTML https://documentaryaddict.com/films/going-clear-scientology-and-the-prison-of-belief
       Scientologists believe that every human being is just a baring
       for at "thetan", an immortal alien spirit. Do Americans really
       want to give a person under influence of such people the
       possibility to push that red button, because she might believe
       that all thetans will rise from the fire as finally freed
       intergalactic warriors?
       Hillary also demanded the Moon-Unification-Cult
  HTML https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Myung_Moon
       should also be
       given Tax-Exempt status like a religion, despite it being
       charged by the United States government with willfully filing
       false federal income tax returns, and found guilty. In return
       she was given a regular page in Moon's own Washington Times.
       Obviously Mrs. Clinton is ready to act in favor of any
       organization that funds or supports her campaign, no matter of
       what nature that organization is.
       A person who has as close relations with dangerous mobsters like
       Scientology as Hillary Clinton is not fit to be president of the
       United States of America. She has proven that she is ready to
       sell her soul and her presidency to just about everyone who is
       willing to fund her campaigns, and she has shown that she will
       do whatever her sponsors want in return. She claims she had such
       great friends amongst European politicians, but the respect for
       her is limited, because Europeans do not like to be lectured
       about what is a religion and what is a criminal organization.
       ahoy
       hellboy
       #Post#: 3924--------------------------------------------------
       Hillary Clinton is totally wrong about Export-Import-Bank
       By: hellboy Date: April 14, 2016, 10:03 am
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       Export-Import-Bank not possible in the EU
       HRC claims, that the Export-Import-Bank aka "bank of Boeing" is
       necessary, because the EU supports it's companies as well. She
       says she knew that, because she has spent so much time visiting
       Europe. I don't know which Europe she has been to, but the
       European Union strictly rules out direct payments to companies
       to give them advantage in business competition. In fact some
       major companies had to pay back such payments, and the companies
       and the countries that payed were fined for breaking the rules
       of fairness in capitalism. Isn't it embarrassing to Americans,
       that Europeans are still the better capitalists, because we try
       to force everyone to play by the same set of rules? We even do
       that when others act in contrary to that, and a direct
       competition like Boeing is to the European aircraft-producer
       Airbus gets money from the state, and therefore has an advantage
       in business, because it is the right thing to do. We don't act
       against our own principles, just because others do that.
       If HRC knows so much about European politics, how comes she
       doesn't know this? Is that her so called experience? European
       countries support companies by providing a working
       infrastructure from which everyone profits, not just business,
       they provide healthy workforce through guaranteed medical
       healthcare and they provide free education up to university
       degrees to have the best trained workers possible. And they
       protect themselves from companies becoming too big to fail by
       proper anti-trust-laws. We don't call that socialism at this
       side of the pond, we call it reason. Bernie Sanders demands all
       that, so he is a socialist in the political landscape of the US
       by all means, but from a European point of view he is a straight
       out liberal.
       ahoy
       hellboy
       #Post#: 3925--------------------------------------------------
       Hillary Clinton's Goldman Sachs transcripts will be leaked
       By: hellboy Date: April 19, 2016, 9:41 pm
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       There is no way that these Goldman-Sachs papers will not be
       leaked. There are persons for sure who have a copy or their own
       recording and are not in favor of the Democratic Party, and are
       only waiting for the right moment to leak it. And that moment
       will be very close to the election, when there will be no more
       time to react.
       Mrs Clinton has been sloppy with the protection of classified
       information in the past, so nobody should expect that she was
       able to protect these transcripts. Some people have them, and
       they will leak them.
       The superdelegates must not wait until then, and take their
       responsibility serious. They must demand to see these
       transcripts, if there is no way to get reasonable for Mrs
       Clinton even behind closed doors, so they can decide whether
       they contain things that could throw her out of the presidential
       contest. Otherwise they would hand the presidency to Donald
       Trump.
       It is totally irresponsible of Mrs Clinton to think she could
       keep the content of her speeches secret until the election, and
       it is for sure not presidential to act like this. What's the
       plan anyways? To keep it secret until she is president, and then
       it would be to late to hold her responsible for it, and so
       everything would be fine? That's crazy! If there is anything in
       there that she wants to keep secret, and there must be
       something, what else could be the reason to keep them secret, it
       must be revealed before it is to late. And that is as soon as
       possible.
       ahoy
       hellboy
       #Post#: 3928--------------------------------------------------
       TTIP: HRC's favourite trade-deal declared dead
       By: hellboy Date: May 27, 2016, 5:13 pm
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       [quote="politico"]Back in 2012, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary
       Clinton hailed a proposed transatlantic free trade pact as a
       job-creating, growth-boosting “economic NATO” that would forge
       new ties between old allies.
       Three years later, hopeful presidential candidate Hillary
       Clinton appears less enthusiastic.
       “Can you make it go away?” was the only-half-joking response of
       her campaign chairman, John Podesta, to a recent question on the
       trade deal now being negotiated between the United States and
       European Union.
       Cooling ardor on both sides of the Atlantic threatens the very
       existence of the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership
       (TTIP), which was launched in a series of promising talks
       between Brussels and Washington in 2013.
       Since then, TTIP has lost some of its shine, as the trade talks
       attracted unprecedented levels of public opposition.
       Over 2.6 million people across Europe have signed a petition to
       stop TTIP and a smaller EU deal with Canada.
       Concern over the impact of TTIP has united disparate groups —
       from French farmers to German constitutional lawyers and
       politicians on the left and right.
       “TTIP represents a monumental power grab by corporations and it
       must be stopped in its tracks,” Keith Taylor, a British Green
       Party legislator told a recent European Parliament debate.
       In the U.S., TTIP has been overshadowed by its Pacific
       counterpart, the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). Skeptics, who
       fear the impact of both deals on American jobs, include
       progressive Democrats, Tea Party protectionists and labor
       unions.[/quote]
  HTML http://www.politico.eu/article/will-ttip-be-an-economic-nato/
       In the EU every decision must be unanimous. In Austria meanwhile
       all political parties declared, that there is no chance at all
       that they would ever sign TTIP. That's why TTIP is to be
       declared dead, and that's why the Clinton-campaign wants that
       topic to "go away". Well, it will not just go away, this is a
       major blow for her strategy on international trade. A strategy
       made to serve the interests of Wall Street and companies like
       Goldman Sachs, and that gives us an idea what Mrs Clinton said
       in her speeches there, that she is so desperately trying to keep
       secret.
       ahoy
       hellboy
       #Post#: 4145--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Clintons and Scientology
       By: hellboy Date: October 7, 2016, 6:07 pm
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       [quote author=hellboy link=topic=642.msg3925#msg3925
       date=1461120075]
       There is no way that these papers will not be leaked. There are
       persons for sure who have a copy or their own recording and are
       not in favor of the Democratic Party, and are only waiting for
       the right moment to leak it. And that moment will be very close
       to the election, when there will be no more time to react.
       Mrs Clinton has been sloppy with the protection of classified
       information in the past, so nobody should expect that she was
       able to protect these transcripts. Some people have them, and
       they will leak them.
       [/quote]
       Well, I told you so.
  HTML https://theintercept.com/2016/10/07/excerpts-of-hillary-clintons-paid-speeches-to-goldman-sachs-finally-leaked/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
       Why the hack didn´t they listen? Noobs!
       ahoy
       hellboy
       #Post#: 4149--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Clintons and Scientology
       By: pet Date: October 9, 2016, 6:14 am
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       Gehört nicht ganz zum Thema, weil das Internet und
       seine atemberaubende Schönheit und Weisheit im Mittelpunkt
       steht, aber hier ist ein längerer Kommentar zur
       Präsidentschaftswahl:
  HTML https://www.fischundfleisch.com/hawaiipiraten-von-oesterreich/hillary-gegen-trump-massenmedien-gegen-internet-26322
       Interessiert auf F&F natürlich niemanden, weil es kein
       Österreich- oder Flüchtlingsthema ist, aber vielleicht kommen
       ab morgen ein paar Leute, denen im Büro fad ist (so ist
       das eigentlich immer).
       Was nicht im Artikel steht:
       1.) Niveau im Wahlkampf sinkt weiter. Eine Schlagzeile lautet
       "[Bill] Clinton kriegte Pipi-Lutschi und wurde trotzdem
       wiedergewählt",
       eine andere will mit geilen Bekenntnissen einer Verflossenen
       Hillary als lesbisch hinstellen: "Bill [Clinton]: 'Hillary
       leckte
       noch mehr Muschi als ich". Es handelt sich nicht um meine
       Übertreibungen,
       sondern um naturgetreue Übersetzungen aus dem Englischen.
       Was mir persönlich noch abgeht,
       ist eine öffentliche Erklärung des Secret Service der 90er:
       "Wir waren im Loyalitätskonflikt, weil die First Lady den
       Präsidenten ständig ohrfeigte und dögelte. So brutal war
       nicht einmal Barbara Eisenhower."
       2.) Julian hat endlich wieder was geleakt, wie El Hel schon
       oben erklärte, und auch dazugesagt: "Ab jetzt werden die
       Leaks bis zur Wahl immer geiler und verbrecherischer, harhar!"
       Er hat halt einen Pick auf die Clintons, seit ihre Mitarbeiter
       öffentlich erklärten, sie wollen Julian tot sehen.
       3.) Trumpi wird zur Last gelegt, ein Lustgreis zu sein, der
       sich in einer sexy Radio-Show über sein Sexualleben
       geäußert hat, in der er seine Schlampen objektifizierte.
       Schlagzeile, Titelseite: "Pack sie an der Muschi!"
       (Howard Stern, für wer ihn kennt. Jimbos Dreckschleuder
       weiß mehr:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Stern)
       Außerdem bezeichnete er irgendwelche Promis als "blad"
       und "deppert", was aber nur hartgesottene Hillary-Apostel
       empört.
       4.) Hillary will laut Lippenbekenntnis die Damen besser
       vor Vergewaltigern schützen, allerdings melden sich jetzt
       laut Schlagzeilen Vergewaltigungsopfer, deren Vergewaltiger
       von Hillary geschützt wurden -- als selbige Strafverteidigerin
       war. Hillary ist offenbar on Record, wie sie lachend erzählt,
       wie sie ein damals 12 Jahre altes Mädchen vor Gericht
       als frühreifes Biest hinstellte, das eh gerne vergewaltigt
       wird, weil es in ihrem Tagebuch stand.
       Das ist ein wirklich extrem primitiver Wahlkampf -- NOCH
       besser als Palin/McCain gegen Obama/Biden 2008! Endlich
       Spaß und Unterhaltung in der Politik!
       Wers nicht glaubt, soll sich den heutigen Drudge-Report
       ansehen, es ist wirklich sehr schräg:
  HTML http://drudgereport.com
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       HRC's claim wikileaks was Russian is so pathetic
       By: hellboy Date: October 13, 2016, 5:11 pm
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       The leaks are so far relatively boring. That politicians talk
       differently to brokers then they talk to the public is no
       surprise and was commonly expected. The idea of open borders may
       be a nightmare for some paranoid nationalists, specially in
       America, but it won't cost HRC the election. If Scrooge Mc.
       Trump wasn't such a bizarre character, they still could have
       made an impact, but that is speculative.
       That's why it is so absurd, that the HRC-campaign is making that
       completely ridiculous claim that wikileaks was  controlled by
       Russia. Maybe they are afraid of what is still to be revealed,
       maybe they continue their revenge against that organization,
       that reveals the total incompetence of the American
       administrations and services depending Internet security.
       Whatever the reason may be, the attempt to wipe all that is
       publicized off the table by describing it as Russian propaganda
       in favour of Trump is pathetic. But it is a signature-piece of
       "Correct The Record", Clinton's organization for
       social-media-propaganda, that has been seeking ways to diminish
       the credibility of persons and organizations that reveal
       inappropriate behavior by Clinton and her friends for years.
       Let's face the facts: the co-founder and spokesman of wikileaks
       is Julian Assange. He resides in the embassy of Ecuador in
       London, threatened to be executed by the USA if extradited to
       them, and has no connection to Russia whatsoever. The
       wikileaks-servers are mirrored all over the world, to make sure
       that a crackdown on them by a government of a single country
       that has a bad conscience doesn't bring them down. They do that
       on purpose, they have already experienced such incidents. All of
       that is commonly known and can be found on their website as well
       as on the Wikipedia-page about wikileaks:
       [quote="Wikipedia"]Until August 2010, WikiLeaks was hosted by
       PRQ, a Sweden-based company providing "highly secure,
       no-questions-asked hosting services". PRQ is said to have
       "almost no information about its clientele and maintains few if
       any of its own logs". Currently, WikiLeaks is hosted mainly by
       the Swedish internet service provider Bahnhof in the Pionen
       facility, a former nuclear bunker in Sweden. Other servers are
       spread around the world with the main server located in Sweden.
       Julian Assange has said that the servers are located in Sweden
       (and the other countries) "specifically because those nations
       offer legal protection to the disclosures made on the site". He
       talks about the Swedish constitution, which gives the
       information providers total legal protection. It is forbidden
       according to Swedish law for any administrative authority to
       make inquiries about the sources of any type of newspaper. These
       laws, and the hosting by PRQ, make it difficult for any
       authorities to eliminate WikiLeaks; they place an onus of proof
       upon any complainant whose suit would circumscribe WikiLeaks'
       liberty, e.g. its rights to exercise free speech online.
       Furthermore, "WikiLeaks maintains its own servers at undisclosed
       locations, keeps no logs and uses military-grade encryption to
       protect sources and other confidential information." Such
       arrangements have been called "bulletproof hosting".
       In August 2010, the Swedish Pirate Party announced it would be
       hosting, managing, and maintaining many of WikiLeaks' new
       servers without charge.[/quote]
  HTML https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks
       The only "argument" for the accusation is the fact, that Edward
       Snowden was forced to seek asylum in Russia, because Barack
       Obama and Hillary Clinton threaten his life for being so brave
       to make public the crimes of their administration against the
       civil rights of citizens not only of America, but the whole
       world. But Snowden is still only an informant to wikileaks.
       Sincerely the most prominent and for sure one of the most
       important, but still nothing more. Never ever has he been a part
       of their administration, organization or staff. To build a claim
       like the one wikileaks was controlled by Russia, only on the
       fact that Snowden is hiding there, is bizarre.
       This strategy makes Mrs Clinton more unfit to be president every
       time she uses it. Still less unfit then trump, but unfit anyhow.
       Americans should go for Johnson, he is in contrary to Trump and
       Clinton a decent, honest guy.
       ahoy
       hellboy
       #Post#: 4159--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Clintons and Scientology
       By: marenostrum Date: October 15, 2016, 5:09 am
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       THIS IS THE VIDEO HILARY CLINTORIS DOES NOT WANT YOU TO SEE!
       PLS SHARE TO SHOOT DOWN THAT ILLUMINATI PARASITE PUPPET!
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvyGydc8no
       #Post#: 4164--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Clintons and Scientology
       By: hellboy Date: October 15, 2016, 4:36 pm
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       "Illuminati"? Really? Such conspiracy theory bullshit is the
       reason why people who criticize HRC are not taken serious. It's
       far too easy to point to such brainless fairy tales and put all
       other accusations into the same bucket. It works the same way
       for her like with Trump: if he wasn't so ridiculous, aggravating
       and as we now know even criminal, Clinton wouldn't stand a
       chance. Every other candidate would have beaten her easily.
       Trump doesn't criticize her for what is really at hand, he
       invents totally absurd conspiracy theories, talks about Bill or
       her health. So if he mentions something serious, it is hardly
       heard in his flood of stupidities. And people who attempt to
       criticize her mentioning "illuminati" do her the same favour.
       ahoy
       hellboy
       #Post#: 4165--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Clintons and Scientology
       By: hellboy Date: October 25, 2016, 5:46 am
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       HRC has now changed the narrative. Now she and her surrogates
       claim, that Russia is using wikileaks to publish what their
       hackers have hacked. The way they say it is: "the hack has
       Russian fingerprints all over it." That is typical political
       propaganda. It means that there is no proove whatsoever,
       otherwise it would be presented.
       They say that most American secret services are sure, that
       Russian services have hacked the DNC and other American
       organizations. That may be true, and makes sense for secret
       services. But a member of Clinton's campaign-staff? Not so much.
       The only reason they can present is still "Russia wants Trump as
       president", and that is no reason for such things happening. It
       seems like Clinton and her team want people to disrespect them
       as much as Trump.
       Wikileaks needs no Russian help to hack someone. Russia even
       prosecutes their only Russian-born founding member, so they
       aren't friends at all. A regime that oppresses democracy and
       information like the Russian one is never too fond of
       whistleblowers. They also are braggarts, so if they had hacked a
       Clinton-staffer, they would also brag about that.
       The leaks still haven't discovered anything shocking or
       unexpected. So the claim that "it's all Russia!" isn't only
       pathetic, it's unnecessary. The only thing the Clinton-camp is
       showing by keeping it up, is a bad conscience.
       ahoy
       hellboy
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