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       How the European Left took over the Austrian Pirate Party
   DIR By: hellboy
       Date: March 31, 2015, 6:35 pm
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       It started 2006, in the first days of the pirate party in
       Austria: When party-founder Florian Hufsky wanted to register
       the url "piratenpartei.at" he found out, that it was already
       registered to the Austrian communist party "KPOE - European
       Left". The communists told him that they themselves were already
       a pirate party, and if he wanted to make pirate politics he
       would have to do it within their organisation. It took some time
       and interventions from international pirate parties to convince
       the communists that there is no way that pirates would ever be
       acting in the framework of existing political parties -
       certainly not being blackmailed into such a situation - and that
       our political goals and methods do not fit communism at all.
       Unfortunately that episode of party history was forgotten, due
       to the tragical suicide of Hufsky in 2009 and the fluctuation of
       personnel in party boards and members.
       When the PPAt had reached a size that promised electoral
       success, and thereby the chance to gain well paid positions in
       the political establishment, that was the honeypot that drew so
       many wannabe-leaders and agents of other parties that feared the
       competition to the PPAt.
       For Austria, those were Christopher Clay and Julia Reda. Here is
       a detailed description of what happened at the general assembly,
       that decided the first union of the PPAt with the communists.
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       A short summary in english: along with her fellow PPAt-member
       from Berlin Fabio Reinhardt, Reda became moderator of the
       assambly, how that happened is one of the blank spots in the
       protocol. From the very beginning she and her co-moderators
       changed the agenda, so that all applications made by critics,
       criticising the board or being simply disliked by the board
       could be avoided. They where postponed till the end of the day,
       when there was of course no more time to take care of them, or
       they where called when the person who made it was outside, and
       were then rejected because of the absence of the author.
       People who asked critical questions to the board and the
       management were interrupted or told they would be sacked from
       the assembly, if they would not stop. Finally Bernhard Hayden,
       one of the local moderators, interrupted his "work" to read a
       prepared text to the assembly, that warshipped his Guru
       Christopher Clay.
       Clay promised to the Pirates, that he would make sure that the
       Pirates would not be seen as a Party of the political left
       because of the union with the communists. When the members had
       voted for the union, he turned around and held a press
       conference, celebrating the new union of all parties of the
       political left, including the Pirates. Later he claimed he did
       not want to waste ten years dealing with stupid NGOs and
       infantile activists, he wanted to be a proper polititian,
       earning proper money and only dealing with other proper
       polititians.
       When Reda got elected an MEP because of a pathetic mistake in
       German voting regulations, the first thing she did was to pose
       with the flag and some members of the radical left in the EP:
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       Clay became her "Communications Officer", critcising the
       Pirate's "stupid dogma of non-violence", claiming he had the
       right to decide, when the use of violence was justified (which
       is of course against everyone who has a different oppinion then
       himself and Reda).
       Before the union the communists and their socks in the PPAt
       promised, that the cooperation would be only for the
       eu-elections. That of course was once again a lie. The
       elelections in Vienna came close, and the communists stroke
       again. Their socks in Vienna, Gerhard Hager and Christoph
       Ulbrich, made sure that the PPAt was in a union with the
       communists again.
       How they managed to secure that, is described by Hager here:
  HTML https://forum.piratenpartei.at/thread-14161-post-138427.html#pid138427
       In english: the membership-fees of the PPAt are so low, that the
       communist party could afford to pay the fees for a number of
       members of the communist's youth-organization, that showed up at
       the Vienna assembly, to vote for the union. They came with
       another communist sock, Juliana Okropiridse, who got the first
       place on the candidates-list for the coming elections in return.
       She also claims to be a board members of "unipiraten" (once the
       Pirate's students organization) and the Austrian young pirates
       "junge Piraten", that are as empty shells as Julia Reda's
       european version of "Young pirates". In these organizations
       there have been no activities whatsoever since these hoaxes were
       founded.
       According to the statutes of the PPAt, the decision for the
       union would have needed a 70% approval by all members
       nationwide, which it didn't get. So the members of the partie's
       abitration court, specially Florian Salmhofer, decided that this
       part of the statutes was to be ignored, because they are as well
       socks of the communists. So the communists didn't have to pay so
       many membership–fees to have 70% in the national organization,
       Vienna was enough by then.
       In the press-release celebrating the union, that was made
       despite it has not been legitimized by the members of PPAt, the
       board of the communist party declared, that the left-populist
       parties syriza and podemos were the blueprint for their new
       political formation:
  HTML http://www.ots.at/presseaussendung/OTS_20150216_OTS0131/wir-wollen-wien-veraendern
       Hager and Ulbrich also made clear, that to them the only reasons
       to be in politics are power and money:
  HTML http://wien.piratenpartei.at/landesgeneralversammlung-2015-1/
       A short summary: they declared that to them the Pirate's idea of
       being political activists instead of politicians was "stupid".
       They wanted to be elected into parliament or at least a local
       council to feel relevant, and of course to earn lots of money.
       The communist agents first declared, the union now called
       "andas" was only to be formed for the viennese elections (we
       remember: they also declared that the first cooperation was just
       for the eu-elections before the eu-elections, so who is sane
       wouldn't believe them any more), which - surprise! - is once
       more a lie. It also was a lie, that andas would keep on being a
       union, but soon it came clear, that this was another lie:
  HTML https://forum.piratenpartei.at/thread-14332.html
       The reason to actually form a new party: it's the money, stupid!
       In the most unlikely case that they would be elected, they would
       have gotten additional tax money for being a party.
  HTML https://forum.piratenpartei.at/thread-14332-post-140502.html#pid140502
       Here is a first-handed description of how the decision for the
       Viennese version of "andas" was made in the end:
       --- Quote ---
       > Serves you right, KPÖ! Socketeering is no substitute for due
       diligence!
       >
       > At the time of the decision to share campaign efforts and
       results, the KPÖ would have had enough information to refrain
       from it, because Ofer was indicted in November. Juliana
       Okropiridse would have failed a simple screen test. A glance on
       pirate activity would have revealed total absence thereof.
       >
       > However, it is not only lack of due diligence you can reproach
       on the communists. As they say in America: you can’t con an
       honest man. You cannot con an honest party, either. What the
       communists did to the Pirate Party was essentially a hostile
       take-over. The then soon-to-be communism-starlet Juliana
       Okropiridse showed up at the pirate assembly vote for or against
       the alliance in the company of homeys from the communist youth
       organization who tipped the balance in favor of joining. She had
       to do it twice, because the first voting was ruled unstatutory
       by the pirate arbitration board. Okropiridse’s commie socks also
       voted pirate issues out of the campaign at that assembly.
       >
       > This will not end well
       >
       > So far, the only visible influence of the Viennese pirates on
       the campaign is a sudden onslaught of profanity, a traditional
       hallmark of the capitals’s piracy (together with bar brawls). In
       an article about wealth distribution in Austria on the campaign
       website, Didi Zach, Okropiridse’s running mate, quoted himself
       as naming political opponents as „assholes“. Okropiridse herself
       is peddling vomit bags at campaign press conferences. The slogan
       that goes with it is an allusion to scooping dog feces from the
       sidewalk.
       --- End Quote ---
  HTML https://mobile.twitter.com/hyliapfingstl/status/609057520208986113
       The new andas-party is ruled by a central committy that makes
       all decisions non-transparently and without asking the members,
       so it is a classical stalinist construction. The Pirates are in
       contrary to that a postideological and direct-democratic
       movement. That's why no real Pirate could ever participate in a
       cooperation with communists or other non-democratic
       organizations.
       Of course this hoax did not succeed, and got as little votes as
       the communists always get, because voters are not stupid enough
       to be fooled that easily, and recognize communists when they see
       them. Meanwhile communist spooks installed in Pirate Parties in
       Berlin and other German regions returned to the party they came
       from, the German department of the European left "dieLinke". In
       Austria the next effort is made by the communist party, to form
       a new party that camouflages its communist nature, this time
       called "Aufbruch". Among the founding members are least
       surprisingly several individuals involved in the incidents
       described here. The pirate party in Austria has been turned
       down. The forum, last platform of commication with the members,
       was closed and taken offline. The communist socks hold the
       infrastructure of the party hostage, only not to let real
       pirates get started again. There is no other activity
       whatsoever.
       One of the founders of "Aufbruch" is Lukas Daniel "@vilinthril"
       Klausner. Klausner is the person that always has a
       delegate-majority in the Pirate Party's online-electoral-tool
       called "liquid", a derivate of the "liquid-feedback"
       polling-software. Liquid Feedback was designed for opinion
       polling, not for binding referendums, and it needs by advise of
       the developers at least 1000 participants and a strictly divided
       administration from the administration of party members to avoid
       manipulation. Shortly after liquid was installed Klausner took
       control of both administrations. He gave friends and relatives
       free memberships that he is expanding ever since, to always be
       able to make decisions for the whole party all by himself.
       Abusing that tool like that, he was able to decide that the
       decisions made with the tool would overthrow decisions made by
       real-life members at party assemblies, and so he repeatedly was
       able to make decisions in favour of the cooperation with the
       communists, when assemblies had rejected them. This method of
       faking democracy fits communists for sure, bout it is the
       opposite of what pirates want to achieve, and drove all members
       except a handful of politically irrelevant mentals out of the
       party.
       Unfortunately the Pirate Parties international are ignoring the
       whole situation, and Gregory Engels is giving the European Left
       every support that they want. I just can not find the decision
       of the board or any other pirate organization, that legitimates
       that. The ppi-board will also have to choose one side, because
       pirates and communists can never be on the same side! As I can
       not see other pirate parties than the Austrian to already be
       taken over by the communists, but I can not know that. So I will
       make a survey amongst the boards of all pirate parties
       worldwide, how they feel abot being communists soon. I will
       inform the ppi-board about the results, as they come in. Then we
       will know, how popular the board's decision to support the
       European Left really is.
       ahoy
       hellboy
       #Post#: 3506--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How the European Left took over the Austrian Pirate Party
   DIR By: hellboy
       Date: April 2, 2015, 1:27 pm
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       In the name of the ppi-board Gregory Engels has handed over the
       moderation of their whole forum to the well known left fascist
       Christian Bayer, aka "Cave". This sinister character immediately
       started to delete every single word of criticism about the
       communist takeover of the PPAt, and censoring and closing out
       everey critic, like it is normal for stalinism.
       So the ppi-board has chosen it's side, and it obviously ist the
       side of the European Left. This means war!
       ahoy
       hellboy
       #Post#: 3613--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How the European Left took over the Austrian Pirate Party
   DIR By: hellboy
       Date: May 10, 2015, 10:28 am
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       [quote="pirate times"]
       PPSE VOTES TO LEAVE PIRATE PARTIES INTERNATIONAL (PPI)
       May 10, 2015 · by Andrew McCallum · in Europe, Pirate Party News
       The Pirate Party of Sweden (PPSE) has become the latest national
       party to leave Pirate Parties International (PPI), following a
       vote taken at the currently ongoing PPSE General Assembly.
       The Assembly approved the Board’s proposed motion to end PPSE’s
       observer membership by 62 votes to 8 against, with 13 blank
       votes. In its motion the Board stated that “[d]uring our two
       years as observers, we have not noticed many improvements in the
       organization. Indeed, it has been worse on many levels and it is
       important to highlight that we are not satisfied with the
       organization.”
       more on Pirate Times
  HTML http://piratetimes.net/ppse-votes-to-leave-pirate-parties-international-ppi/
       [/quote]
       we are not satisfied with the organization either!
       ahoy
       hellboy
       #Post#: 3653--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How the European Left took over the Austrian Pirate Party
   DIR By: hellboy
       Date: June 11, 2015, 5:14 pm
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       Communist Party of Austria discovers sh[b]it end of stick[/b]
  HTML https://twitter.com/hyliapfingstl/status/609057520208986113
       Sorry for redirection to Twitter, the software of this forum
       wouldn't accept the direct link.
       ahoy
       hellboy
       #Post#: 3968--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How the European Left took over the Austrian Pirate Party
   DIR By: hellboy
       Date: July 23, 2016, 5:02 pm
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       [quote="samedokan"]When Pirates DO prefer CENSORSHIP
       Publicado el mayo 10, 2014 por samedokan
       No answer forthcoming in 20 days… I guess they do not want to
       bother about the issue before the elections are over and crime
       has paid. So I have to BLOW THE WHISTLE.
       Never thought I’d have to blow the whistle on PIRATES😦
       
       Antonio Garcia
       ningunotro@hotmail.com
       22/04/2014
       Para: Vassilis Perantzakis
       (member of the new Court of Arbitration of Pirate Parties
       International)
       1 dato adjunto (507,0 kB)
       Descargar infotothepress.zip (507,0 kB)
       If ONLY it had stayed about the fraudulent PPI membership of
       PP-CAT, I would not be furious.
       It started, at the international level, with bad behaviour and
       errors at the PPI General Assembly of 2012 in Prague.
       Prior to that, the problem started in Spain in 2010…
       The Spanish Pirate Party was founded at the end of 2006 as a
       standard clone of the Swedish Pirate Party. This cloning
       included, of course… acting politically at the national and
       european level, as these were the ones where legislation dear to
       the pirate ideals was actually developed. So, no participation
       in regional nor local elections were envisaged.
       One quirk of the Spanish Pirate Party Statutes, which were
       crafted in a sort of paranoid way, was the fact that the
       founding principles of the party were pritty armored: to change
       any of these, 90% minimum of the membership had to cast a vote
       in an Extraordinary General Assembly, and two thirds of the vote
       had to be YES.
       The difficulty compounded when at some time pirates decided the
       party was not growing in membership fast enough… and dropped
       asking for membership fees.
       There, the only real test on if any member was not lost to the
       party… disappeared. People simply did not care to resign
       membership, and no membership fee payment remained able to fail
       and alert anyone to the fact that someone who had not payed the
       fee was no member anymore.
       The result, of course, was that when some members of the party
       suggested that they would be very interested in running a
       candidature for the Catalan regional elections…
       … in no way could the Spanish Pirate Party organize timely an
       Extraordinary General Assembly where there could be any chance
       AT ALL that 90% of all those that were listed as members in the
       parties database would cast a vote😦. The only legit way
       to clean the database of ghost members was to take the decision
       to reintroduce membership fees… and wait to see who failed to
       pay the next dues to write him off as a member. Once the
       membership database such cleaned… one could organize a EGA with
       the hope (if maybe still remote) of 90% of the membership
       voting.
       Needless to say… this would never happen in time for the
       Brethren of Catalonia to be able to present a candidature to the
       2010 regional elections.
       And then… foolish as they were… they just JUMPED SHIP… and
       created a Catalan Pirate Party just to be able to run in those
       elections.
       While from my point of view such behaviour has NO JUSTIFICATION
       WHATSOEVER in the pirate ideology… they have tried to justify
       their existence ever since.
       They have adopted a very populistic direct democracy approach…
       and wreaked havoc first in internal spanish pirate matters,
       complicating pirate logistics needlessly, and subsequently in
       international pirate affairs.
       In 2011 they submitted a request for full membership to the PPI,
       but it was watered down to observer membership before even
       reaching that years GA, because the PPI statutes admitted only
       ONE full member per country.
       For the 2012 PPI GA, they intelligently adopted a two step
       approach… they submitted various statutes amendments aiming at
       opening a door towards full membership for themselves as a first
       step. It had to be a two step approach because the admittance of
       new members ALWAYS happened with the current Statutes,
       amendments being discussed too late to immediately come into
       effect at a moment where they could be useful for them.
       As a result, they were OBSERVER MEMBERS since 2011, and they
       proposed Statutes amendments in 2012 with which they could
       candidate for FULL MEMBERSHIP at first in 2013… so as to be full
       member and able to participate in the coveted european elections
       of 2014.
       At the 2012 PPI GA in Prague… I was a delegate for the Spanish
       Pirate Party, and my mission was to discretely lobby the
       delegates of all the other pirate parties but of course the
       Catalan Pirate Party in order to convince them of the fact that
       opening the Pandoras Box of multiple full memberships per
       country would be a doomsday scenario for the Pirate Movement.
       I went about it discretely, because I did not want to ruin the
       2012 PPI General Assembly for our German Brethren… they had two
       regional elections coming up one and two months later, and the
       premises were SWAMPED by German press.
       All I had to do was convince 1/3 of the vote casting delegates…
       to reject any Statutes amendment going towards the aims of the
       Catalan Pirate Party.
       Insofar as I can judge the facts without a total insight on what
       other were thinking… the organizing commitee opted for an other
       solution… they gave priority to the approval of a few Statutes
       amendments concerning the composition and mission of the Board
       of Directors and the Court of Arbitration… and then just pledged
       to waste time so the rest of the amendments never got tabled.
       Although not an optimal solution, this was a solution I and the
       Spanish Pirate Party could live with, even if wasting time
       untill the last moment meant not having the right circumstances
       to present a few broadranging strategical proposals to the
       General Assembly.
       Alas, the Catalan Pirate Party delegates did not accept their
       strategy being thwarted (not finishing step one, they would
       never manage to complete the second before the European Election
       madness)… and they BLACKMAILED the PPI GA… delegate Kenneth
       Peiruza threathening that he could be the bad boy too (reacting
       on Thomas Gauls sorry statement)…
       The rest you can read in many places…
       I have written a blog post where you get the last evolutions,
       but also a link to a file with ALL the EVIDENCE:
  HTML https://samedokan.wordpress.com/2013/09/02/klarmachen-zum-kentern/
       The file is joined to this mail too.
       To make things short, but clear…
       1) The Catalans, seeing their aims thwarted… populistically
       called upon the gathered General Assembly of the PPI to
       immediately have a popular vote on whether PP-CAT should be a
       full member or not. They asked ANYBODY to submit a motion asking
       for such a vote.
       Nobody did so, as I believe everybody knows an improvised motion
       is NO ACCEPTABLE WAY of tabling a membership issue in the PPI.
       At least, not one mentioned in the Statutes.
       For the record… the Court of Arbitration had to settle the
       question of candidate Pirate Parties who had submitted their
       candidacy papers AFTER the official deadline… AND decided they
       had to wait until the next GA. PP-CAT, due to their two step
       strategy… had of course not even bothered to present candidacy
       papers at this time. They were thus NOT EVEN CANDIDATES.
  HTML http://wiki.pp-international.net/PPI_CoA/PPI_CoA_Ruling_2012-2
       As the pression of the PP-CAT delegates was mounting and they
       risked to turn the GA into a childish battle in the presence of
       the full German press…
       … the Chairing Board of the PPI GA choose to understand a plea
       for clarification of the developing situation submitted by the
       halfblind remote delegates of Australia as if it were the motion
       the Catalans were so loudly asking for…
       … and an STATUTORILY ILLEGAL VOTE on the full membership of
       PP-CAT to PPI was organized.
       I choose NOT to intervene at that point BECAUSE it was more than
       obvious that anything decided thus should EASILY be nullified by
       a PROMPT decision of a LEGIT Court of Arbitration.
       Better to let the GA end with a stupid and invalid vote, BUT
       without a public scandal in the press.
       SO… THE VOTE WAS CLEARLY ILLEGAL AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN OVERTURNED
       WITHOUT EFFORT BY THE COA (at least any competent one).
       ...[/quote]
  HTML https://samedokan.wordpress.com/2014/05/10/when-pirates-do-prefer-censorship/
       To put a long story short: ppi-bureaucrats would cooperate with
       anyone who supports them. They are absolutely pain-resistant
       when it comes to mobster-style policy in their never ending
       struggle for relevance, that will never succeed, because
       relevance requests decency and honesty, which the ppi-clowns
       lack completely.
       ahoy
       hellboy
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