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       #Post#: 447--------------------------------------------------
       Ideas for New server rules
       By: Masinini Date: December 21, 2011, 5:07 pm
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       General Server Rules:
       Accountability rule: Say John Doe tells friend Tim Deer to join
       the Server. Tim logs on, and gets white-listed because John
       tells Nxck he is a friend. Now say Tim Deer immediately starts
       griefing. John Doe should share some of the blame, maybe in the
       form of jail time or a temp ban. This is because John Doe made
       himself accountable for Tim Deer's actions.
       Survival Server Rules:
       Permission Rule: Say Preamble builds a Strip Mine. Masinini then
       enters said strip mine, without Preamble's consent. Masinini
       then mines some materials. These Materials should be given to
       Preamble, but Masinini is evil and cruel. he takes them and
       makes himself a nice pick. This should be considered a form of
       griefing. Preamble took the time to make the mine, so why should
       Masinini be allowed to just take stuff without Preamble's
       approval?
       Same goes for a house. Say Masinini wants to live with Preamble.
       So he add's a second floor to Preamble's home, or add's another
       room. This should also be considered griefing, without
       Preamble's permission.
       The Survival rules may seem harsh, but it is mainly to deter a
       problem. Suppose someone does invite themselves into someone
       elses home. Who is to blame? Who get's punished? With What? What
       rule does this fall under?
       #Post#: 450--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ideas for New server rules
       By: Khaijit Date: December 21, 2011, 6:50 pm
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       The Squid-Pool Rule: Only I may be allowed entry into the Squid
       Pool of Gobbyboy. Penalty is 12 years in a labour camp.
       #Post#: 454--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ideas for New server rules
       By: Masinini Date: December 21, 2011, 7:47 pm
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       Hmmmm. I don't like that rule. The punishment isn't good enough.
       #Post#: 456--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ideas for New server rules
       By: nak1411 Date: December 21, 2011, 10:14 pm
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       I like these rules so far.  Any more ideas are welcome and them
       i can make an official RULES post, and overwrite the original,
       bare bones, one.  These punishments arent really harsh, because
       Ive seen catfights over these same types of issues between
       players and its annoying as hell.
       #Post#: 460--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ideas for New server rules
       By: Preamblee Date: December 21, 2011, 10:45 pm
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       Just so you know masi, feel free to use my mines or w.e. :P,
       just follow the blueprint if you do.  To be slightly more on
       topic, a rule i would suggest would be to disallow people from
       selling items they've produced from a non-legitimate source (ie.
       tnt's wheat farm).  not a huge deal, it just bothers me to see
       people playing non-legitimately on a survival world when there
       are two creative worlds to do whatever you want with.
       #Post#: 462--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ideas for New server rules
       By: elfsoultaker Date: December 21, 2011, 10:47 pm
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       I don't know if i agree completely with the first rule, because
       i mean it's not like the first guy said hey i'm gonna get u
       whitelisted on this server you should grief...I mean how is the
       first friend suppose to know that was the intentions of his
       other friend.
       #Post#: 464--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ideas for New server rules
       By: nak1411 Date: December 21, 2011, 10:50 pm
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       Yeah Pre agreed.  Tnt is admin tho so i guess money isnt really
       an option for staff obviously.  lol, but yes, for newcomers and
       such, all income will need to be legitimate.  Only way I would
       allow something like that is if it was build entirely from
       gathered materials.  So tnt, keep that on the DL or move it out.
       Just to prevent it being discovered by newbs who start crying
       and begging for material from it.
       #Post#: 465--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ideas for New server rules
       By: Masinini Date: December 21, 2011, 10:52 pm
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       Well, that's why it is only a temporary punishment, and not a
       perma-ban. It just add's pressure to people. It deters people
       from griefing if a friend tells them they will get in trouble
       to. And it will only be for the first day or so.
       #Post#: 469--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ideas for New server rules
       By: Preamblee Date: December 22, 2011, 1:14 am
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       also, we could use vanish as soon as possible, very useful grief
       detection
       EDIT: also, mods or maybe just admins should be able to see in
       locked chests to check for stolen items
       #Post#: 472--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ideas for New server rules
       By: Khaijit Date: December 22, 2011, 6:57 am
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       Vanish would be awesome for staff, since they could use it and
       then /tp to any suspected griefer or argument to see what is
       happening without disturbing their actions (i.e. people stop
       arguing, griefers stop grieifing etc...) which would then give
       solid evidence against the player(s).
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