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       matjam360
       By: Preamblee Date: January 3, 2012, 11:28 pm
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       Grief.
       -And I know there will be a complaint of some form from him, but
       tntwizzy found definitive proof of his griefing in the creative
       map on pixel art, so he was banned for me after we questioned
       him saying he probably griefed a lot of other places too, he
       said something along the lines of "not a lot," effectively
       admitting to the grief, so he was banned.
       #Post#: 1151--------------------------------------------------
       Re: matjam360
       By: matjam360 Date: January 3, 2012, 11:32 pm
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       Sorry you banned me before I could finish. I was going to say
       that because my friends have my account info and most likely did
       not grief a lot since the gennerallty don't but they own a grief
       server but they only partially grief there.
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       Re: matjam360
       By: tntwizzy Date: January 3, 2012, 11:47 pm
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       its your fault for giving your acc info to other people, i
       wouldnt expect to not be banned if i gave someone my details and
       they came on and started banning WEing and fucking up the
       server, but then again i have over 150 bans made and soo soo
       many of them blame their friends and siblings and things like
       that. in the end, it shouldnt have happened and i support
       preamblee 100%
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       Re: matjam360
       By: matjam360 Date: January 4, 2012, 3:30 pm
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       Will still I gave it to them for an old server they even
       promised to delete the info on my account. I even watch them
       delete to make sure they deleted the info but I didn't see two
       copies deleted so they must have kept one of their 2 copies.
       #Post#: 1168--------------------------------------------------
       Re: matjam360
       By: Preamblee Date: January 4, 2012, 4:19 pm
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       I guess you're out of luck then.
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       Re: matjam360
       By: matjam360 Date: January 4, 2012, 5:19 pm
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       I know like pretty much every mod you really don't care about
       what happened and if its a bad thing you just ban since its your
       job.
       #Post#: 1170--------------------------------------------------
       Re: matjam360
       By: kooky132 Date: January 4, 2012, 8:01 pm
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       Mat, your a cool guy, but rule 1 of internet gaming is to not
       give out your password to anyone, no matter what the reason was
       ... Its completly your fault, if your friends griefed using your
       account, then the blame rests mainly with you.
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       Re: matjam360
       By: matjam360 Date: January 4, 2012, 8:39 pm
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       So  if the owner of the server to gave here account info to nick
       or someone like a mod and they griefed and he got banned it
       would be his fault even if it was for server reasons?
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       Re: matjam360
       By: matjam360 Date: January 4, 2012, 8:47 pm
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       But wait if this server is a part of Mcbans and  it told me look
       at Mcbans for the ban I looked and no ban is there?
       #Post#: 1175--------------------------------------------------
       Re: matjam360
       By: Masinini Date: January 4, 2012, 11:47 pm
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       Mat, first of all, Nak isn't stupid enough to give out his
       password.
       Second of all, you don't own this server, so that example is
       irrelevant to your case.
       Third, if Nak griefed, I'd ban him myself.
       Furthermore, this server is part of Mcbans.
       Until this point, I had been thinking that maybe, if Nak was
       talking about unbanning you, i would support the decision do to
       your attendance and works. But as you try to defend more and
       more, I am not going to stick my neck out.
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