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       Re: chat
   DIR By: fastmotion
       Date: June 2, 2023, 1:41 am
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       The map-jumper clan Deadheads is on the map 2064.
       The map 2057 is lsot with the Mera clan.
       I am a member of a clan BigBoys and will invite you all to that
       clan after some days if you want and like to play on maps where
       Deadheads leaves quickly, and if the current new clan is fine
       with my new account.
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       Re: chat
   DIR By: bobby66
       Date: June 2, 2023, 3:48 am
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       Map 2064, clan Bigboys.
       I'm not sure yet but looks like that clan is fine.
  HTML https://imgur.com/J4zNbh1
  HTML https://imgur.com/gYem0SS
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       Re: chat
   DIR By: bobby66
       Date: June 2, 2023, 9:34 am
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       spy data from DeadHeads clan at 2064:
  HTML https://imgur.com/le6jvLZ
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       Re: chat
   DIR By: bobby66
       Date: June 3, 2023, 2:21 am
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       My 2 accounts arrived to the map 2064 and have at least 1 base
       made there, 1 is enough.
       Other 3 accounts got the Reset clicked and on 05/06/2023 evening
       can have those accounts ready to move to that map as well.
       That map doesn't seem to have yet a decent clan. The current
       clan BigB has only 2 gold players.
       So, we wait and think how to proceed after a week with 5
       accounts when the train bases become available.
       Maybe it is wise to create a new clan. We decide that after 3
       days.
       The decicion to move away from the 2057 Astro dominated map was
       smart for me. And the team there was put to a safer Merahputih
       clan which is smart for them too because they can now stay there
       alive longer little bit.
       Meanwhiel the wikipedia has got all vehicles except ultra heavy
       tanks. I try to update those too and then it is a helpful fine
       forum/wikipedia for the next 16 years.
       On the 2057 map the Merahputih clan was so inactive that they
       just waited their death there. I don't know why they went to
       that map at all and didn't stay on their older maps. The last
       operation on that map we destroyed the flaks but the enemy APC
       took over the destroyed base. I didn't take it because we
       promiced that bae to our offline nongold member, plus because i
       knew that i leave the map after that battle, plus i knew that
       Merahputih clan has lsot that map, so why to get new bases etc.
       If the agreed nongold player had got that base by being online,
       then it would have helped him to stay on that map longer and
       more safely. But for others like me that base was not needed.
       So my APC was standing in front of that base and didn't move to
       the base, and enemy Willies came to destroy it. Why the clan
       doesn't have anything against willies and no troops at all, i
       don't know.
       But that Mera clan gave some good experiences and lessons, so we
       can use them on the new map.
       I will try to make/find 5-player team on the new map, take over
       train bases. If any of you reads this then let me know if you
       want to join or suggest something for that. I guess the best
       would be to create a clan and recruit.
       #Post#: 346--------------------------------------------------
       Re: chat
   DIR By: fastmotion
       Date: June 3, 2023, 3:25 pm
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       It takes testing/experience how flaks prefere targets.
       The general rule is that flaks switch to flak-destroyer tanks
       like Bredas, Gpfs etc and not to other role vehicles like
       Willies. So, air planes can safely attack flaks until there are
       Bredas shooting the flaks. This is the general rule.
       Air defence train BP44 is preffered over Gpfs. This exception
       needs to be just noticed and remembered and documented to this
       forum. It is an exception to the general rule because anti air
       train is not a flak destroying vehicle. Byt probably in the
       inner code of the game those trains are for flaks a preffered
       flak destroying type of vehicle.
       Gpfs and airplanes should be started to pulled back when Bredas
       or BP44 are almist destriyed by the flaks, because the flaks
       would then switch to immediately Gpfs.
       Not sure how the flaks prefere between 2 flak oriented vehicle.
       Polos are not flak destroyers by flaks opinion.
       So, it takes testing and good if someone document later like we
       do here now.
       The main general rule is clear but exceptions need more testing.
       Typical air plane and Gpf player should just monitor when Bredas
       start to end, like when 10 are left, and then pull back and if
       new Bredas arrive to attack flaks then send back the Gpfs and
       airplanes. And from exception at least one should know that
       Polos are not preffered by flaks, and Bp44 is preffered over Gpf
       but Bredas are preffered over Bp44.
       #Post#: 347--------------------------------------------------
       Re: chat
   DIR By: tony77
       Date: June 3, 2023, 4:38 pm
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       Example of a minimap reading.
       To find train abses look which dot touches both railways lines
       on the minimap.
       I see 5 of such.
       You can't see that so easily on your phone screen because the
       dots are so small there.
  HTML https://imgur.com/pQGmerQ
       #Post#: 348--------------------------------------------------
       Re: chat
   DIR By: bobby66
       Date: June 4, 2023, 6:30 am
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       If you have many accounts on a map and 1 account has less than 5
       bases in total but others 5+ then those other other accounts
       can't capture a Newcomer base but the 1 with 4- accounts can.
       You can make 1 Apc with the 4 minus bases account and also 1
       random tank like Breda. Then you make for example 6 Wespes and
       then in front of the Newcomer base and the Newcomer base flak
       won't shoot those Wespes because they belong to 5+ bases
       account. Then you send there from the 4- bases account 1 Bredas
       wo shoots the flak and the flak shoots back. When the flak
       shoots then the 5+ account Wespes start to immediately shoot the
       flak and destroy it.
       That way the account with 4- bases can destroy and take over a
       Newcomer base with 1 Apc and 1 Breda.
       #Post#: 349--------------------------------------------------
       Re: chat
   DIR By: fastmotion
       Date: June 6, 2023, 4:45 am
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       The map 2064 went as planned. Deadheads clan left and i took
       their 3 trainbases and another alley took 1 and an enemy got 1.
       We own most of the map.
       All my 5 accounts are on the map with around 30 bases. I am a co
       leader and there are around 5 gold players in total.
       I just want to see how owning the whole map looks like so i stay
       on that map for next weeks.
       I suggest the same tactics for everybody: play on maps where
       Deadheads play and then take over train bases and own the map.
       There are still newcomer bases on the map as you see in the
       picture. If you have some gold then come join us and take those.
       My 1 account produces only Willies for 3 trainbases for base
       defence. The other account produses only Mauls so that
       Mauls+Willies defend train bases. And other 3 accounts, 3rd
       makes trains, 4th Bredas, and 5th trains defence with Mauls plus
       random tanks that a situation requires. As you see 5 golden
       accounts with 30+ bases are needed to manage trains.
       It is not realistic that 1 account handles trains.
       Minimum is that 1 account makes only trains and the other
       account only 10 sets of Mauls around trains and 3rd account 10
       sets of Bredas. This is the minimum, but i suggest to have 1
       account to produce 10 set of Willies for base defence so that if
       trains are away or dead then the bases have some defence tanks.
       This is the minimum, but a 5th account is useful to provide for
       example Skinks, Kats, Tigers etc. And the other clan members
       should provide air planes and random tanks. All that requires
       15hrs of resources generation for gold.
  HTML https://i.imgur.com/4nANo2d.jpg
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       Re: chat
   DIR By: tony77
       Date: June 7, 2023, 3:26 am
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       i left the current clan and the reasons are:
       1. they don't understand the priorities, specially train base
       defence.
       The 1 Co-leader gold member was online and making 2 hours Bredas
       to attack a leaving clan Deadheads tank base while i rushed
       during 2 hours to get 4 trainabases and got 3 but failed with
       the 4th because my troops arrived there at the same time as the
       Yusuk clan owner. So, the co-leader didn't understand at first
       that trains are the key to own the map. Later 1 more Newcomer
       train base appeared and i send 12 sets of troops around it to
       block it from enemies while he didn't do again anything. I asked
       many times that others should send defensive troops in front of
       train abses, but nobody reacted. When my train abase was
       atatcked then the co-leader said that he can't help because he
       is too far, and noted that i should pull to a safer are 1 tank
       from another base whiel the train abase was loosing. All that
       together proves that him and the clan doens't understand the
       importance of trains and loses now the map.
       I didn't have time to make defensive trains etc because my
       Resources went to put maximum flaks to 3 train bases plus
       sending 15 sets of Willies etc in front of train  bases. And i
       was playing on the phone at work when the trai nabase was
       atatcked. It was nothing to do to save the train base but at
       least there were soem defensive troops by my accounts. If i had
       1 more day i would have started to build anti-train trains etc
       because i stopped concrete production and started
       Steel/Aluminium production for trains. But the team should have
       already understand the importance of train bases and should have
       sent already there defensive troops.
       2. clan leader is offline and inactive, clan has 1 gold member
       who is active 2 hours every day. No other gold memebers.
       3. it is obvious that the clan who took the 2nd train base will
       own the map because they have around 5 active gold players who
       understand the key elements while the Bigb clan has 2 who don't.
       #Post#: 363--------------------------------------------------
       Re: chat
   DIR By: bobby66
       Date: June 9, 2023, 5:57 am
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       The wikipedia has all tanks but not yet all buildings/flaks etc.
       Go ahead and write your wisdom under each tank next years.
       Let's say you are at work and open the game on your phone. In
       that case the game does not show vehicle descriptions. In that
       case you can get such information from our Wikipedia. Let's say
       you are at home and playing the game with your computer. In that
       case you may want to know how to invite a player into your
       allience. The answer is again in the Wikipedia. The Wikipedia
       has not yet all such wisdom but it is a matetr of time when all
       that wisdom is written into it. If your eyes can't see well the
       game chat on the phone screen or you missed some talks in the
       game chat 10 lines above then you can suggest to talk in the
       forum. Those are soem examples why to use the forum with it's
       Wikipedia. There can be in the future some more rare uses. For
       example you may decide to talk in the forum's non public topic
       about tactical things and guests don't see it and spies in your
       clan either. It would be a safer private place to talk than
       inside a game chat. It is up to you how you can use such forum
       to benefit your gaming.
       Also note that you don't have to be selfish and think that you
       don't need that forum etc. Think about others, your wisdom
       inside this forum would benefit them. So, go ahead and write
       your wisdom here and help others.
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