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Re: chat
DIR By: spyaccount
Date: May 15, 2023, 4:31 am
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15/05/23, recent spy data.
Notice that the clan has democracy, so i can take it over.
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Re: chat
DIR By: fastmotion
Date: May 15, 2023, 7:18 am
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On 2057, we didn't have anymore Fastmotion's bases, but we had
his APC trucks there still.
With the help of alley Tege we used the APCs and got a base for
Fastmotion on map 2057, so he was now on 2 maps, 2058 too.
But that base on old map 2057, where are no home base, does not
produce any Steel, it stays constantly on 37k value.
Same for other recources.
So, the conclucion is that you can't do such APC tricks, can't
play normally on 2 maps.
HTML https://imgur.com/b912tT7
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Re: chat
DIR By: DELSON
Date: May 15, 2023, 7:34 am
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--- Quote from: tony77 link ---
>
> But of course it has few limitations:
> You can't upload images to this forum, because it has no free
space for that, and it displayes advertisemant, even some kind
of credit card asking as you told. But everything else is as
fien as their payed forum has.
>
--- End Quote ---
You can upload images here to this forum.
Just scroll down under the new post text box, go to Attach: (if
you want the image in the post, choose "Inline full-size image"
in dropdown menu.
[attach=1]
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Re: chat
DIR By: fastmotion
Date: May 15, 2023, 1:03 pm
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Please talk i nthis forum about the below issue:
--- Quote ---
>
> wanted
> 20:00 2058 LOSTWOLF05: but nah its ok
> 20:00 2058 LOSTWOLF05: its fine
> 20:00 2058 LOSTWOLF05: all my base not safe
> anyway
> 20:01 2058 LOSTWOLF05: well lets put things the
> easy way
> 20:01 2058 LOSTWOLF05: after all my base gone im
> gone
> 20:01 2058 FASTMOTION: i remember the red air base
> situation and i did impolite behaviour that i took
> it
> 20:01 2058 LOSTWOLF05: u said our train base?
> 20:02 2058 FASTMOTION: i suggest i can write in
> our forum and talk there
> 20:02 2058 LOSTWOLF05: i guess in your eyes im
> not worthy enough to hold that airbase?
> 20:02 2058 LOSTWOLF05: yeah what can i say right
> 20:02 2058 LOSTWOLF05: all thx to delson
> 20:02 2058 FASTMOTION: i agree to answer in our
> forum to all opinions
>
>
--- End Quote ---
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Re: chat
DIR By: fastmotion
Date: May 15, 2023, 1:44 pm
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From the dialogue i nthe chat i understood such topics:
1. Do clan need any rules at all?
2. As a gold player, train base owner, i took an air base near
train base for tactical reasons, but seems someone i nthe chat
already said he plans to take that base.
I didn't read such request and just took the tactical base
myself, and that was impolite but tactically correct.
Because i had issues with getting a new base and an alley even
suggested to try to take that tactical base.
That day i played with 4 accounts and were busy so i just acted
quickly by taking the tactical air base.
Please confirm that those are the topics and then i answer to
them.
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Re: chat
DIR By: tony77
Date: May 15, 2023, 2:26 pm
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The newst map 2059 has good center-map cluster/village
opportunity for a team:
HTML https://imgur.com/70FH2oj
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Re: chat
DIR By: guest9
Date: May 15, 2023, 2:49 pm
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Let me just put it in summary
Problem
1.i ask if fastmotion can have that specific airbase and told u
the reason as i was one of those weak player who dont buy gold
and fastmotion agree... less than 10min later delson suggested
that fastmotion should get that airbase because it red its enemy
and the train base cant become L3
2.is my idea just listen agree and forget by the leader or am i
not worthy enough for that airbase because of wanting to be more
safe? because eventhough fastmotion dont remember that i ask for
that specific airbase but he remember i wanted airbase?
3. i wanted that specific airbase because it would be protected
by the train and i would have more time to build those gold to
level up those flak instead he wanted to throw me an airbase
which is near the enemy trainbase??? is that even logic now?isnt
that the same thing as here i give u something that u wanted but
u can soon lose it to the enemy
4.i know im making a problem with no.4 and no.5 and i also know
that he is thanking delson about his idea because leader can
finally upgrade the flak to L3 but what does that mean? so my
idea cant solve the train base flak problem? if i get the
airbase then that train base cant upgrade?
5. leader said "ALL THX TO DELSON" but i guess my tank just
dissappear out of thin air :)
So now tell me am i wrong to be mad about this? i ask the
leader for that specific airbase and told him reason and he
agree but less than 10min he forgot?
I offer fastmotion my peace solution i will not betray by
changing to another alliance but i also wont help and i will
just play solo in the alliance but he keep persuade me to write
here but didnt even show that his sorry but wanting drama he
said, just because he cant say sorry for the mistake that he did
and at first i reject to write in forum so he INSULT ME? saying
that im not behave like a human? very nice 0 leadership/ 0
responsiblity
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Re: chat
DIR By: tony77
Date: May 15, 2023, 2:53 pm
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It is technically possible to upload around 20 images to this
forum and after that it will give an error message that it is
not possible anymore, and suggests to pay to buy
space/possibility.
It happened to my other forums.
Technically you still can of course upload here now and around
19 more times, there is such Attachment button, true.
But those Imgur-images work endlessly, more than 20 allowed, and
they stay visible for years as my experience is in other forums.
If the Imgur-pictures don't show up in your computer then i
think we should use some other such uploading web site beide
imgur.
But for me those Imgur pictures show up well.
Maybe we will find out that for others they work well too, or
find another web site where to upload images similarily.
--- Quote from: DELSON link ---
>
> [quote author=tony77 link=topic=2.msg151#msg151
date=1684058739]
> But of course it has few limitations:
> You can't upload images to this forum, because it has no free
space for that, and it displayes advertisemant, even some kind
of credit card asking as you told. But everything else is as
fien as their payed forum has.
>
--- End Quote ---
You can upload images here to this forum.
Just scroll down under the new post text box, go to Attach: (if
you want the image in the post, choose "Inline full-size image"
in dropdown menu.
[attach=1]
[/quote]
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Re: chat
DIR By: tony77
Date: May 15, 2023, 2:55 pm
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For me the red and not red dots and related things are still
confusing.
Today a Newcomer airplane base was red and i could obtain it but
Newcomer tank bases were not red and the game didn't allow me to
take them.
Very confusing.
--- Quote from: DELSON link ---
>
> Oh, OK, I have checked it:
>
> The ? ? ? one I named "- Gray Dot" is Abandoned Base, free to
capture. Base without defense.
>
>
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Re: chat
DIR By: fastmotion
Date: May 15, 2023, 3:43 pm
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--- Quote from: LostWolf05 link ---
>
> Let me just put it in summary
> Problem
> 1.i ask if fastmotion can have that specific airbase and told
u the reason as i was one of those weak player who dont buy gold
and fastmotion agree... less than 10min later delson suggested
that fastmotion should get that airbase because it red its enemy
and the train base cant become L3
>
--- End Quote ---
I understand that you made an agreement but the agreement was
broken. Right? It is like someone promises you something, and
then does not do what he promised. This is light unethical
behaviour but not so unethical like stealing money or other such
misconducts, because it is jsut an entertainment game, not a
real life. So, you didn't do any msitakes and others did a
little misconduct, a smaller mistake, because they didn't do as
agreed. If you believe certain teachings, then you wil lget to
the Paradise, or good future Karma, but those who did a small
msitake, will get troubles, and the punishment comes for sure,
you can say that God will execute the punishment, not you and
not me. You did everything right, no mistakes, and if you wish i
can offer a deal how can i pay for that mistake to you. For
example, maybe we agree that i can send some tanks to your bases
for 2 days to defend them, or, i detonate the base that i
shouldn't have taken, or other solution, i don't mind. But i
repeat that you already got an apoligy for the small msitake,
and i phrase religiously that the sinner will have to pay sooenr
or later for his msitakes, and you get reward by God or phrase
it other ways. So, i beleive i understand the issue now and if
not then explain in more detai lwhere was exactly a mistake.
I provided above some explanations why the unfear behaviour
occured. I was so busy that didn't notice all chats and things
and didn't have time to react to them all, that made my
behaviour more brutal/ignorant. In busy modes human minds do
msitakes. I remember that i wrote why i took myself that base
myself i nthat moment, i said i took it because it is rationally
right to do for the team. But i am not sure if i actually wrote
it. But i remember i did and in that case at least it explained
that non-democratical behaviour and the mistake becomes even
smaller or even disappears.
That base was important because i really needed a base where to
start producing Steel etc 15 hours and/or increase vehicle
count/group value, plus it was dangerously close to the train
base, so it was wise to take it and other surrounded bases. But
it was confusing when exactly the game let's me get which bases
and when not. There was 1 more air base surrounding the train
base but i thought it is to orisky to take because it was closer
to enemy trains and was not a red dot, not takeable.
--- Quote from: LostWolf05 link ---
>
> 2.is my idea just listen agree and forget by the leader or am
i not worthy enough for that airbase because of wanting to be
more safe? because eventhough fastmotion dont remember that i
ask for that specific airbase but he remember i wanted airbase?
>
--- End Quote ---
I understand that you ask about clans rules, ethics etc. The
general answer is that clans don't have usually rules written
anywhere because their News Board is liek a chat that changes it
contents al lthe time, and they don't have forums, except us.
Some clans have a Democracy pointer but that only gives you
ability to vote for a leader and does not give you hints how
democratic or buddhistic the clan is. And you seem to ask right
now about this clans rules and things, and this gives you the
answers about the clan, and jsut do some time in a clan and you
get a picture. You ask here now about how our clan rules are
about right to speach Human Right. I did the same like you now
when i was in another clan and my opinion contradicted the clan
owners opinion and i was kicked out. I don't kick out for such
reasons and i suggest always peopel that change many clans to
get more experience, i don't keep anyone, i don't kick either.
Also i follow what clan members suggest me, you can perhaps
remember yourself that i did something that was sugegsted i nthe
game today. I have sugegsted to talk i nthe forum to agree rules
and things, jsut do it professionally liek you are doing now. We
can make clan rules if we all agree with them. For example in my
former clan there was a rule that Trainbase is always taken by
ultra gold members, not allowed to others. Was a rule that at
least intermediate level flak upgrade must be done for gold. We
can tal kabout it separately but this let's first try to solve a
more personal level issue, later we talk about clan rules ,why
not to have 3 clans with different rules.
You seem to ask if you seem to follow command silently. My
opinion is that you don't in this clan. If there is a busy
attack going on then there is no time for explanations and
typing and there you may jsut see a phrase "LostW, send your
Polos now". But if you disagree then don't send and talk later
in the forum about it and nobody removes you from the clan etc.
And if there is any opinion or suggestion that sounds wrong to
you then tlak again, ask explanations, etc. Practical relaity is
that in most clans you and me are kicked out if they don't like
our behaviour, i was kicked out for example for a different
opinion, but in our clan we don't punish, because it is wrong to
take entertainment so emotionally. In our clan you should talk
and betetr if you do it more in the forum, like now.
You yourself saw today that the so called Leader did as clan
members suggested and how they escorted him and so on- he
totally Listened others. And that answers your question and says
that always talk bcause the Leader really Listens. In your
current case he Listened you many times in the game, and the
mistake with the air base was a rare case.
We haven't written any rules about the clan yet but we have
talked that we try to value Democracy and help NON-gold players,
other clans value either winning, or chaotic behaviour that
results in frustration quickly.
For your map we/i didn't have any other plan than to recruit new
members and it was a big suprice that we got a train base first
time in the history. Probably such event made the human mind to
not act reasonably. also the previous older map had busy events
today, the mind was not in a typical state. I beleive that in
the future such cases won't happen because we will have much
calm times next.
--- Quote from: LostWolf05 link ---
>
> 3. i wanted that specific airbase because it would be
protected by the train and i would have more time to build those
gold to level up those flak instead he wanted to throw me an
airbase which is near the enemy trainbase??? is that even logic
now?isnt that the same thing as here i give u something that u
wanted but u can soon lose it to the enemy
>
--- End Quote ---
It is a half true when you say that the airbase near our train
base would be quite protected for a non gold player. It is not
the total truth, because enemy trains have very long shooting
range, and we saw enough enemy trains earlier in that locations,
those trains can be very faar away and kill your such L1 air
base with just 30 Bredas and our train base would not be able to
reach those trains. A half truth is that our train base
certainly increases your airbase defence because enemy tansk are
afraid that our trains can reach to shoot near your air base. A
gold player for such air base would have been fine but still
risky. A non gold player certainly risky. That base was taken by
enemy low level gold player, who set gold flaks and nothing
else. We can kill that player next in time but we couldn't have
defended you there as a non gold base.
I am sure that tactically or how to call it we did a right
choice that didn't take that base or warned about that base. So
i repeat, that iagree in half amount with your standpoint
"because it would be protected by the train". The trains does
not protect it much as i explained, they don't reach so much.
TODO: continue later
--- Quote from: LostWolf05 link ---
>
> 4.i know im making a problem with no.4 and no.5 and i also
know that he is thanking delson about his idea because leader
can finally upgrade the flak to L3 but what does that mean? so
my idea cant solve the train base flak problem? if i get the
airbase then that train base cant upgrade?
> 5. leader said "ALL THX TO DELSON" but i guess my tank just
dissappear out of thin air :)
> So now tell me am i wrong to be mad about this? i ask the
leader for that specific airbase and told him reason and he
agree but less than 10min he forgot?
> I offer fastmotion my peace solution i will not betray by
changing to another alliance but i also wont help and i will
just play solo in the alliance but he keep persuade me to write
here but didnt even show that his sorry but wanting drama he
said, just because he cant say sorry for the mistake that he did
and at first i reject to write in forum so he INSULT ME? saying
that im not behave like a human? very nice 0 leadership/ 0
responsiblity
>
--- End Quote ---
I answer to 3-4 later.
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