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#Post#: 509--------------------------------------------------
Recuirements for joining a new clan
DIR By: fastmotion
Date: September 14, 2023, 7:07 am
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Here are the initial thoughts for joining clans like Forum and
Useless.
Comment all points, change them, add new ones.
1. The new clan members get all next bases on the 2083 map. That
enables them to increase military points to make troops for next
attacks on that map. At the end ca 100 bases will all belong to
the new clan. All destroyed enemy bases plus newcomer bases go
to the new clan members because they will help to destroy all
the enemy bases and make the map blue.
2. The new clan invites all players except those who have been
inactive for 96+ hours. It is around 30 accounts. Other inactive
accounts become enemies. We attack first only Mitraxes bases,
and ignore the inactive bases because we hope Mitrax will reset.
3. The new clan members help to make the 2083 blue. After
getting first few bases on the map they can already start to
help making troops to achieve that. For example do scouting and
kill found enemy troops with Willies and Skinks. Make
Brums/bredas to attack enemies. It is the main requirement for
the new clan members to make the 2083 map blue.
4. Our clan helps your clan goals which you write up. For
example we can participate in invading your enemy maps, and/or
brand new maps. But our main energy goes first to the 2083 map.
5. Both joining clans behave friendly and democratically. We
have your main goal which you define and we have our 2083 map as
the main goal. We help on your goal and you help on 2083. Both
are equal goals. You must make troops for 2083 and help thete
and you get all bases there, and we must help you in getting a
new map or attacking your main enemy etc.
6. You gain more blue areas on few maps, plus few active players
and we help on your goals. We get a help to make 2083 blue plus
new players for other projects. Right now we have 2 main players
in total, and the enemy has 3, therefore we can't complete the
map 2083, because 2 can't win over 3. Both clans are too small
and joining is rational, plus you get a chance to keep you clan
name while we delete ours and take yours, there is no loss or
risk for you. For us the main risk is that you later won't help
as promised on 2083 map.
#Post#: 510--------------------------------------------------
Re: Recuirements for joining a new clan
DIR By: bobby66
Date: September 14, 2023, 7:54 am
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The reason for joining clan Useless is because it is small and
similar to us and we have a common enemy, plus we have talked
about things and joining thoughts together for some time. We can
test by sending for a week 1 member to the Useless to see their
chat and maps etc. They have already done it. If you know
another clans then suggest others.
The reason why we need to join is that our 1-2 players are
stucked for months and nobody suggests or sees any solution.
Joining another clan will make new opportunities and brings
helpers to the stucked map 2083.
There are no rational recipes for 2083, has not been for months.
Our players Amolx, Ivan and Steel cannot solve the 2083
situation, therefore i suggest the joining as a solution that
can solve plus provide new opportunities.
There is no need to be emotionally attached to the current clan
name Forum. Rational steps will provide new emotions and more
fun and opportunities. Right now there is nothing fun or
progressing. There is mainly 1 Bob who does alone all jobs. We
could have 5 Bobs if we join a new clan and that would make more
maps, more opportunities, more fun, more friends, mire
everything. And our 1 and only Bob would feel much less
overworked, and could see a progress. The map 2083 has not
progressed anywhere in general and therefore we need a change.
If you don't have any rational other solutions then please vote
for joining all together another clan.
The receiver clan gets mainly 2 main players, plus 3 nonmain
lowgold players, only 5 players in total. Everyone else are
inactive.
#Post#: 511--------------------------------------------------
Re: Recuirements for joining a new clan
DIR By: bobby66
Date: September 14, 2023, 10:11 am
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The reasons why to join another clan:
1. Because waiting a suprice solution didn't happen for 2
months. It is not likely to happen a suprice like Mitrax resets
or many new players join us.
2. There is no other way to get the stucked situation become
solved. Hirering new main players is difficult and nobody except
1 player does it. And that 1 suggests now to get many new
players with 1 move. Plus, it opens other possibilities, new
goals, new maps, etc.
3. Even if the next new clan won't help on the 2038 map then at
least it will increase the main players quantity from 1 to 6.
And having 6 makes our main players life much easier, plus gives
opportunity to take new maps, complete 2038 together with 6, and
much more. Even if the 2038 will stay stucked there will be many
more other goals, because 6 is bigger than 1.
If you can't provide any rational other solutions, then you
agree that joining another clan is the only solutions. Let's
repeat that suprices haven't happen and nothing has worked. Why
should suddenly anything change if we just continue old way?
I suggest that who just disagrees without rational arguments can
stay in the emptier old clan We destroy Mitrax bases first, and
after that his bases who disagreed.
I suggest such steps:
1. One account joins for 4 days with the new clan and shares to
others if it feels fine and if they agree with condition.
2. That first member as a coleader invites all remaining plus
writes a message to all. That takes few days.
3. After a week all members are in the new clan. In the old clan
the old leader sets 1 of his account to continye leading for 1
week. After that also him will leave.
4. If during the first week the cooperation doesn't work with
new clan members we return to the old clan.
3.
#Post#: 512--------------------------------------------------
Re: Recuirements for joining a new clan
DIR By: fastmotion
Date: September 14, 2023, 10:55 am
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I can write my opinion what our ca 5 permanent players will get.
1. Ivan.
Ivan's timezone doesn't let him attack at the server's midnight
and at daytime he can't because enemy clan Mitrax is active the
whole daytime. That makes Ivan's input useless, and he has been
useless for months, if to generalise. The new clan will provide
more players who will enable Ivan to play during the daytime.
Because having more maps Ivan can help on many maps with
different teams, plus on the old map more players will destroy
every day Mitraxes troops so Ivan can safely work with Gofs at
day time too. Our Bob doesn't have time to alone kill enemy
troops every day plus do all other tasks alone. Ivan will get
the chance to play now if we get a bigger team. Plus if he says
Hello, he will get answers next. I couldn't answered alway to
Hellos because i was so busy with all tasks alone. So, ivan will
get 2 victories: starts to use his Gpfs at day time, starts to
socialize more.
2. Amolx.
He will get more maps to increase his bases collection. Plus, he
will get more easier passive jobs where he can send during hours
Bredas in and trains do the jobs. Such passive jobs suit him
best and he will get more of those. Plus, more socializing.
3. Steel.
Steel will more likely to see more teamwork.
4. Bill, Kahlun, other lowgold players. You get more action.
5. Bob/me.
I don't have to do anymore everything alone and be so busy. I
won't write the listing of tasks i did every day. Many of those
won't even show out et, for example, i translated Vietnamese
language in our chat to make decisions. But what shows clearly
out is that i hired all the people and all the blue dots have
mainly completed by me. For example, in recent 30 flacks jobs my
tens of Brums made the main importance not Gpfs or bombers or
Karls. All the players and bases is in main part my effort, and
in smaller part others help. That is a vusible clear argument,
but there are many unvisible jobs like i gave the example with
vietnam spy. All that doesn't mean to feed my ego, but to prove
that the amount of tasks a leader does is enormous if he is
almost alone with almost no team.
I don't have to do anymore everything alone and be so busy.
I can log in and go scouting, or see an atrack and join it, or
go say Good Afternoon, or go to maps that are more interesting
for me.
It is also a rational benefit, the whole team wins, plus maybe
we solve the stucked map. But personally for me it makes my life
much easier plus enjoyable. The proof is very simple: because 6
is bigger than 1, therefore my life will be much easier.
5. Brand new temporary members.
They get more opportunities on more maps, plus more socializing.
But they are fresh and new, we just invite but don't count on
them.
#Post#: 513--------------------------------------------------
Re: Recuirements for joining a new clan
DIR By: bobby66
Date: September 14, 2023, 11:51 am
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Today i logged in and saw a new player called Hours. I said i
don't have time to look hos maps history and talk about his
goals now because i am busy today. I used to do all such profile
looking alone, you can see in this forum such analysis in
earlier posts. In the future we will get 6 players who will do
my tasks so i will have time to do such spy analysis. Or others
will do. But right now nobody does that and many other tasks. In
very general viewpoint is that we just have 1 Bob who does
everything alone, starting from making thousands of Brums,
ending in hirering and advertising. That must end because it is
exhausting plus not enough because 1 Bob eventually still can't
beat 3 Mitraxes Bobs. Such todays example shows clearly we need
more players and moving to other clan collectively is a solution
therefore. Those who still disagree with such solution, can you
one day write to me a rational explanation. I haven't heard any
rational such. I have heard irrational illogical emotional
explanations but those can't be counted. For example Ivan has
said that we can win the map if Bob continues. I have debunked
that illogical belief many times and can repeat the explanation
again if needed. Steel and nobody was present on previous
midnight, only Bob alone was, who cancelled the planned midnight
teamwork. It is illogical and not fun for Bob to continue this
way alone. Bob alone has destroyed alone with Brums 1 30f Mitrax
base. Can any of you do it without Bob? Why you don't do it
then, why haven't you do it for 2 months? Why haven't you
brought any new players to the map, only Bob alone brought 1
beside doing plenty of tasks? Do and prove that you can solve
the map. Me/Bob doesn't believe that you can do anything, plus
me alone or with a minir help from few others is not a solution
either. Try to agree with it or prove the opposite. If you agree
then say Yes to joining plan, otherwuse make 30 Brums todat and
show.
#Post#: 518--------------------------------------------------
Re: Recuirements for joining a new clan
DIR By: bobby66
Date: September 14, 2023, 3:57 pm
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Our ca 40 players, inactivity chart:
--- Code ---
HAGUE8
GRECO
FRANKFURT1
AMOLXY
OLDPLAYERS
WHITESTEEL
NOLIMIT
BLUESTEEL
BLUESTEEL1
REDSTEEL1
HOURS
CUCHULAIN
GIROUD
MAT57
HORN66
BOBBY66
CLIPPER
AMSTERDAM2
IVAN777
TONY77
NEWCO6
JERSEY1
FASTMOTION
SPYACCOUNT
FRAKFURT3
BLACKSTEEL
NEWCOMERJO
F1RE7K
KRYSTIAN
KAHLUN
PAVARD
BESTKING
KILLERZZ
TANK9U
GUNN7
PLAYBOY
TIMMY
KERNER95
BILL675
METERNICH
PUTINZ
--- End Code ---
Clan Useless ca 22 members:
--- Code ---
Name
HOLLANDA
TWINNING
NOG1
VISSIANI
HEGZO
ANUBIS
MATT49
BADVIS
ANTHONY2
HULKANDIA
BIGLARRS
JKN
WARSTEINER
REPDOM
VCLONE
ME99
TUNGBON
VAEROAD
BORU8
YAZOOL
HUNTMAN
AKENATON
Name of Alliance:
Alliance language:
minimum admission conditions:
alliance creation date:
Points:
Bases:
Conquered Maps:
Memb.:
newcomers:
Memb. + newcomers:
Democracy:
Leader:
6 Co-Leader:
BADVIS
TUNGBON
HEGZO
MATT49
ANTHONY2
--- End Code ---
#Post#: 519--------------------------------------------------
Re: Recuirements for joining a new clan
DIR By: bobby66
Date: September 14, 2023, 4:02 pm
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I sugegst let player Hague8 go into the new clan and see few
days the situation and see if it is possible to join, and which
goals they have.
#Post#: 520--------------------------------------------------
Re: Recuirements for joining a new clan
DIR By: cuchilain
Date: September 15, 2023, 4:04 am
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Hi Guys - I am one of the leaders (Nog1) at useless (we shall
all agree on a new name if you join) Its a small ally but a
number of us have been leaders in very large allys and have
decided to just play for fun. That said we know how to play and
first thing is always secure a home map which is what we did
last month. Some players are now resting for holidays others are
waiting for next challenge. The premise is to work together and
have fun no drama. If you would like to join then a few of us
would be happy to make sure you secure your maps and that we
dont get pushed around. No one is precious on being the leader
and its a democracy so nothing to lose. You mentioned sending a
player over happy to do that but there is not much to see or
talk about really - we join up and have more players and your
free to shape things as you wish as long as everyone is
respected.
#Post#: 521--------------------------------------------------
Re: Recuirements for joining a new clan
DIR By: fastmotion
Date: September 15, 2023, 6:35 am
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We can all think of a new name, and which one sounds most
popular to most of us that we can chose. I personally don't have
yet any good name, all names are fine for me.
Our biggest base owner Amolxy didn't say clearly his opinion
yet. I will ask others later as well.
The main argument for me is that 1 "Bob" alone cannot proceed
even if we manage to get our home map blue. Joining makes 5
"Bobs" and that makes more opportunities to everyone, lessens
our Bob's overloaded tasks lists, and more.
I know that forums are not popular nowadays, so i will talk in
the game chat about all that soon.
I suggest let our player Hague8 go into your clan for few days.
I would speak to your main players what they think of our
stucked old map situation and which plans they have.
#Post#: 522--------------------------------------------------
Re: Recuirements for joining a new clan
DIR By: fastmotion
Date: September 15, 2023, 6:43 am
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We can try cowork too at a start. If you say that your goal is
to entertain on the clan Plasma then we can together do a
military operation to their maps. We have sent trains to their
maps earlier and can send again let's say 9 trains and you send
9 Brums and an Apc. This is just an example cowork job if you
want to do coworks at least like that. And in favour we ask you
send troops to our old map to attack our main enemy. This is
like a test if you are interested to try cowork before final
joining to 1 clan. So, such idea.
But it is better to talk in your clan chat with main players.
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