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       #Post#: 29100--------------------------------------------------
       Re: price ranges
       By: gladiatorrrrrr Date: March 10, 2015, 3:06 am
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       wow....some players  prices really don't make sense at
       all....these are based on the (inflated) market values.....
       oh gosh...EA.....morons
       #Post#: 29102--------------------------------------------------
       Re: price ranges
       By: KoolKiwi Date: March 10, 2015, 4:43 am
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       Yeah - the Hummels IF/SIF is atrocious. Realistically who will
       buy an IF when they've forced the SIF so low. You are basically
       stuck with the IF - done!
       @Glad ... yes, agreed. I have already said it's not the worst
       idea in the world but timing and execution is horrible ... very
       poor.
       #Post#: 29103--------------------------------------------------
       Re: price ranges
       By: guest15 Date: March 10, 2015, 4:48 am
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       [quote author=gladiatorrrrrr link=topic=293.msg29098#msg29098
       date=1425973488]
       actually the idea is not that bad, it is just the timing that
       makes it worse. Picture this at the start of FUT16 and you will
       have a different view. Wondering how my bronze players will hold
       ....
       coin sellers can still be operational, I see players being price
       fixed at the highest rated anyway. But at least players will not
       vanish from the market
       [/quote]
       don't be so sure glad, toty kroos was pages yesterday, searched
       now, its just 7-8 of him ... people don't want to lose on them
       at least for now ...
       i will discard the toty iniesta, i/o selling for 7.5 m loss...
       #Post#: 29104--------------------------------------------------
       Re: price ranges
       By: guest15 Date: March 10, 2015, 4:51 am
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       hypothetical q, what if everybody start listing discard players
       for 4900/5000 and contracts 4900/5000?
       #Post#: 29105--------------------------------------------------
       Re: price ranges
       By: KoolKiwi Date: March 10, 2015, 5:05 am
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       Per the tracking of TOTY prices, quickly put this together,
       using the price as at that 19/01 as the baseline (was the lowest
       cumulative price for TOTYs). Then, I added the last column where
       some tweaks could be made ...
  HTML http://i.imgur.com/62AEJDL.png
       Robben, Iniesta, Kroos, Luiz & Thiago Silva appear to be in
       range with the exception of the 'max' range for Luiz - could
       possibly be a bit higher & Robben a bit lower. A few tweaks in
       other areas too ...
       But ... how the heck did whichever moron calculate Lahm's price!
       Basically a 900k/1.3M difference to fall into the same range as
       others.
       Surely, surely EA have this data recorded - somewhere! We are
       talking about 11 of the highest rated cards in the game. It
       cannot be hard ... ::)
       #Post#: 29106--------------------------------------------------
       Re: price ranges
       By: gladiatorrrrrr Date: March 10, 2015, 5:08 am
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       will not happen as there will always be some undercutting left .
       But yeah that would be bad. Consumable packs would solve it
       think the timing is bad, picture it at the start of FUT16, I
       would actually throw in some money for buying packs. As I know
       most players will be affordable in the long term.
       People are now screaming that they have 20M tied up in players
       that are worth 2M, in all honesty, those were also the players
       that bought coins from coins sellers to start with (or used the
       coin glitch). This market was crazy and it has stopped that is a
       good thing. I am glad that I can afford Bale, Neymar and Hazard
       with the coins I have. Bale was rising with 50K a day in the
       last week. That is crazy and unfair to people that just get
       coins from playing and some small trading.
       This is close to a EA store where you can players, a suggestion
       that I really liked. A level playing field for everybody.
       #Post#: 29107--------------------------------------------------
       Re: price ranges
       By: KoolKiwi Date: March 10, 2015, 5:11 am
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       [quote author=otutsarTR link=topic=293.msg29104#msg29104
       date=1425981096]
       hypothetical q, what if everybody start listing discard players
       for 4900/5000 and contracts 4900/5000?[/quote]
       Yep ... that's what will happen with certain players. The 'low
       range' will effectively be forgotten about & the sheep will
       simply follow. However, it won't take much to break - 'all
       resistance crumbles' & panic sales occur.
       The other aspect - as you say with your TOTY Iniesta ... People
       will simply hold on to their cards now. Introduction of TOTS may
       see some sales, e.g. our SIF Neymar will more than likely be
       sold off, but until then I cannot see people flogging their
       cards off. Also, lack of trading on the web app makes it harder.
       #Post#: 29108--------------------------------------------------
       Re: price ranges
       By: gladiatorrrrrr Date: March 10, 2015, 5:17 am
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       [quote author=Kiwi link=topic=293.msg29105#msg29105
       date=1425981940]
       Per the tracking of TOTY prices, quickly put this together,
       using the price as at that 19/01 as the baseline (was the lowest
       cumulative price for TOTYs). Then, I added the last column where
       some tweaks could be made ...
  HTML http://i.imgur.com/62AEJDL.png
       Robben, Iniesta, Kroos, Luiz & Thiago Silva appear to be in
       range with the exception of the 'max' range for Luiz - could
       possibly be a bit higher & Robben a bit lower. A few tweaks in
       other areas too ...
       But ... how the heck did whichever moron calculate Lahm's price!
       Basically a 900k/1.3M difference to fall into the same range as
       others.
       Surely, surely EA have this data recorded - somewhere! We are
       talking about 11 of the highest rated cards in the game. It
       cannot be hard ... ::)
       [/quote]
       nice overview. There are some prices that are out of sink, that
       si for sure. But not look at the prices how they were as they
       were manipulated. Start from scratch and make the price ranges
       what make more sense.
       So rating and league could come into play. Why is IF Maher still
       at a price range of 70 - 110? Whereas MOTM Delph is at 15K -
       25K?
       They are both 77 rated CM's cards, Delph is from the BPL and
       MOTM cards are more rare, it should be the other way around....
       #Post#: 29109--------------------------------------------------
       Re: price ranges
       By: KoolKiwi Date: March 10, 2015, 5:26 am
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       Yeah - that's I took the prices after the forwards were out for
       basically 2 days - meant the prices were more realistic. 25.4M
       for every TOTY card is actually damn good value in the current
       state!
       I do agree Glad - we have been chatting about the 'price list'
       concept & this is probably as close as they can get, but still
       have a market ... of some sort.
       However, it does have that foul stench of control, monopoly -
       dictating at every level. FUT 16 will be a very interesting
       prospect!
       #Post#: 29110--------------------------------------------------
       Re: price ranges
       By: KoolKiwi Date: March 10, 2015, 5:27 am
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       ... and yes, your analysis of MOTM Delph vs IF Maher is spot on.
       Makes no sense.
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