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       World Cup 2014
   DIR By: KoolKiwi
       Date: December 6, 2013, 7:03 pm
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       Guess what's coming ... ;D
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       Re: World Cup 2014
   DIR By: KoolKiwi
       Date: December 6, 2013, 7:03 pm
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       Spreadsheet ...
       Excel 2010 -
  HTML http://goo.gl/4QOS3c
       Google Docs -
  HTML http://goo.gl/93AQ1k
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       Re: World Cup 2014
   DIR By: beuk
       Date: December 7, 2013, 2:26 am
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       An OK draw for Holland, we should qualify for the next round and
       if we don't it's not a real loss, a lot of new young players
       means they're not good enough yet. second round probably Brasil
       and that is the end of the line.
       Group A and G are the strong ones, After Brasil there isn't much
       between the other three, I liked Ghana the last WC, they could
       upset Germany or Portugal.
       Annoying easy draw for France, should have been in pot 2 but
       fifa decides to change the rules and they get a real easy draw.
       And a stunning minute of silence for Mandela, after 11 seconds
       Blatter says its enough....nice tribute
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       Re: World Cup 2014
   DIR By: KoolKiwi
       Date: December 7, 2013, 3:00 am
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       Been out for the missus' work do. Pretty casual affair & had a
       chat to one of the guys who likes his football. Exactly the same
       sentiment re: France. How annoying is that?!?!
       Re: the Dutch ... yeah - not had a look at history, but
       irritating that 2010 finalists are in the same group & like you
       say, 2nd place takes on Brazil, in Brazil. Good luck with that
       one!
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       Re: World Cup 2014
   DIR By: gladiatorrrrrr
       Date: December 7, 2013, 5:43 am
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       if you want to become WC you have to win from every opponent.
       Bloody French....
       #Post#: 17854--------------------------------------------------
       Re: World Cup 2014
   DIR By: Cuz
       Date: December 7, 2013, 6:53 am
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       Only seen Englands group. Much wailing and nashing of teeth....
       well, ok, shrug of the shoulders pessimism really.
       I actually think it's a decent group for them. Low expectations
       v Uruguay and Italy and a potentially troublesome 'easy' game
       against Costa Rica. It means that they know they're going to
       have to perform well to progress and if they get a good result
       in one of the 2 big games then it's going to give them a big
       lift. Make it out of the group on the back of that and they'll
       be buzzing, should give them a focus and togetherness that will
       stand them in good stead for R2.
       Easy groups are often more tricky for a team in transition, a
       bad result and confidence is gone, embarrassment runs very deep.
       The toughest groups are the other way, difficult to build
       confidence when you know the opposition are much stronger and
       your hopes are low. This middling to tough group will provide a
       good challenge and offer solid motivation.
       The biggest factor is going to be climate and travel, if England
       perform very poorly then I think that will be the main culprit.
       So, I won't bet on them getting to round 2 but I think they
       could do better than most of the people here think.
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       Re: World Cup 2014
   DIR By: KoolKiwi
       Date: December 8, 2013, 3:01 am
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       Ok ... so here goes. V1 of a spreadsheet - if anyone wants one.
       Edit ... check the 2nd post.
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       Re: World Cup 2014
   DIR By: beuk
       Date: December 8, 2013, 4:04 am
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       What time are the matches? is it local time or gmt?
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       Re: World Cup 2014
   DIR By: KoolKiwi
       Date: December 8, 2013, 4:07 am
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       Ah ... local time. Have been working on it to update per a
       setting.
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       Re: World Cup 2014
   DIR By: beuk
       Date: December 8, 2013, 4:21 am
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       So spain - holland is localtime of salvador, brasil which means
       4 hours later then my localtime, so they play the game 20:00 my
       localtime on a friday evening, not bad  ;D
       Australia - holland, 1 pm in porte alegre is 4 pm my localtime,
       which means not a good time because everyone is at work but
       impossible for australia to watch that.
       Against Chille it is also 4 pm.
       first thing tomorrow is planning my days of from work :D
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