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Re: 2023/24 Womens Nations League
DIR By: richboy
Date: October 28, 2023, 2:22 am
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I thought I'd better do some research on the second Hungarian
scorer, Dora Sule 😉.
Although she shouldn't have scored from there it was a fantastic
strike and it seems she's done it before:
HTML https://youtu.be/nKPzL6rxn1E?feature=shared
Anyway, I only saw the last 10 minutes or so, so can't comment
on who was the better team and don't know who deserved to take
the 3 points, but great effort to twice come from behind for the
draw. NI shouldn't have conceded at the end but hopefully that
can be put down to experience and won't happen again. Jackie
Burns is definitely a big loss.
#Post#: 17089--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2023/24 Womens Nations League
DIR By: Simon-613
Date: October 29, 2023, 12:30 pm
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--- Quote from: RichardM link ---
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> Goalkeeper had to come for that free kick, where was the
defence as well? Just a punt into the box and they score, defend
like that and you really don't deserve anything tbh, far too
easy.
>
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Our defending was really poor. Maybe the keeper should have come
for the free kick but I also feel the defence should have pushed
out to play the Hungarian player offside. If you're defending
free kicks that deep it just takes the slightest touch for it to
end as a goal
#Post#: 17099--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2023/24 Womens Nations League
DIR By: EalingGreen
Date: October 29, 2023, 1:47 pm
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--- Quote from: Clint link ---
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> [quote author=eightball link=topic=794.msg17054#msg17054
date=1698431836]
> Question marks over the keeper at the end.
--- End Quote ---
I just watched the goals there. She was at fault for all three.
[/quote]The last two fair ebough, but I think blaming her for
the first is very harsh, since it was a fluke.
I mean, David Raya at Arsenal is a top quality gk, but even he
got caught out in exactly the same circumstances for Mudyrk's
goal for Chelsea earlier this season:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUIgwT_Zl48
#Post#: 17101--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2023/24 Womens Nations League
DIR By: Clint
Date: October 29, 2023, 3:12 pm
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--- Quote from: EalingGreen link ---
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> I mean, David Raya at Arsenal is a top quality gk, but even he
got caught out in exactly the same circumstances for Mudyrk's
goal for Chelsea earlier this season:
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That's a definite mistake by the Arsenal 'keeper. It looks like
the Chelsea player spotted him off his line and went for it. I
think it might be worse than what our 'keeper did.
#Post#: 17103--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2023/24 Womens Nations League
DIR By: Ernie
Date: October 29, 2023, 4:39 pm
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Apart from Internationals for NI has Shannon Turner played in
any other matches in the last twelve months?
#Post#: 17104--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2023/24 Womens Nations League
DIR By: RaveDave
Date: October 29, 2023, 5:47 pm
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She was the number one keeper for Wolves, but does seem to have
lost her place this last 6 weeks or so.
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Re: 2023/24 Womens Nations League
DIR By: EalingGreen
Date: October 29, 2023, 5:58 pm
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--- Quote from: Clint link ---
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> [quote author=EalingGreen link=topic=794.msg17099#msg17099
date=1698605234]
> I mean, David Raya at Arsenal is a top quality gk, but even he
got caught out in exactly the same circumstances for Mudyrk's
goal for Chelsea earlier this season:
--- End Quote ---
That's a definite mistake by the Arsenal 'keeper. It looks like
the Chelsea player spotted him off his line and went for it. I
think it might be worse than what our 'keeper did.
[/quote]I don't think he "saw" anything, other than the chance
to bang in a cross which, luckily for him, sliced into the goal.
As for Raya, he's just spent 3 years at Brentford, where they're
verty scientific about these things. I suspect they'll have
calculated that by taking up that position off his line, the gk
will get caught out maybe one game in a hundred. (I mean, how
often do you see that sort of goal scored? Once or twice a
season?)
Whereas that positioning will maybe allow him to get to 4 or 5
crosses in the other 99 games that he wouldn't reach if he
stayed on his line.
Which is not to say that our girl was thinking like that, but
I'd be prepared to guess that that Hungarian has never scored a
goal like that before, nor never will again.
So I'd say good luck for the Hungarian, bad luck for our player.
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Re: 2023/24 Womens Nations League
DIR By: eightball
Date: October 30, 2023, 4:27 am
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I'm probably going to sound very mean here, but apart from
Jackie Burns, none of our goalkeeping options seem to be
athletic enough.
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Re: 2023/24 Womens Nations League
DIR By: EalingGreen
Date: October 30, 2023, 6:28 am
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--- Quote from: eightball link ---
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> I'm probably going to sound very mean here, but apart from
Jackie Burns, none of our goalkeeping options seem to be
athletic enough.
>
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You may be correct. As it happens, Roy Carroll was prominent on
the bench out in Hungary, you'd hope he'd be able to help our
gk's (plus the other coaches?).
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Re: 2023/24 Womens Nations League
DIR By: Clint
Date: October 30, 2023, 1:57 pm
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--- Quote from: EalingGreen link ---
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> As for Raya, he's just spent 3 years at Brentford, where
they're verty scientific about these things. I suspect they'll
have calculated that by taking up that position off his line,
the gk will get caught out maybe one game in a hundred.
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So he made a mistake then. As did our goalie.
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