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Helpful links on True Orthodoxy
DIR By: Maria
Date: November 1, 2014, 4:42 pm
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This short biography of St. Glicherie of Romania linked below
provides a basic understanding of what led to the formation of
True Orthodoxy. St. Glicherie was a wonderworking saint who
suffered and died for his faith. It was he who strengthened the
Romanian Orthodox and who provided crucial support for them in
the formative years of True Orthodoxy.
HTML http://hotca.org/orthodoxy/lives-of-saints/563-the-life-of-the-holy-hierarch-and-confessor-glicherie-of-romania
Of all the True Orthodox, the True Orthodox Church of Romania
has the largest percentage of their population who adhere to
True Orthodoxy, over 1.5 million adherents according to
conservative figures. That is a lot of people in such a small
country.
HTML http://www.scribd.com/doc/238680781/Ecclesiology-of-the-Old-Calendar-Orthodox-Church-of-Romania
Here is another biography of a very holy and inspiring True
Orthodox Saint, The Life of Saint Matthew the New Confessor of
Greece:
HTML http://genuineorthodoxchurch.com/The_Life_of_Saint_Matthew_the_New_Confessor.pdf
Here is an excellent essay written by Fr. Basile Sakkas on The
Calendar Question
This essay explains why the True Orthodox Churches condemn the
New Calendar as part of Ecumenism and why they had to split from
the Eastern Orthodox Churches under the EP.
HTML http://hotca.org/orthodoxy/orthodox-awareness/203-the-calendar-question
Below is the most recent newsletter prepared under the guidance
of Bishop Sergios of the GOC-K. This newsletter discusses the
isolation experienced by many in True Orthodoxy and how to
handle it a positive way:
HTML http://www.gocportland.org/The_Good_Word_Oct-Dec_2014.pdf
If you click
HTML http://www.gocportland.org/
and look on the right
hand panel, there are a number of issues, all of which are
worthwhile reading.
Here is a very short article written by Scott Placek: The
Challenge of the True Orthodox in North America
HTML http://www.namissiongox.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Challenge-of-True-Orthodox.pdf
Let me know if any of these above links do not work.
By the way, a recently canonized saint in the OCA and Antiochian
Orthodox Church is St. Raphael of Brooklyn, NY. Here is what he
wrote about the rising problems with Ecumenism at the beginning
of the 20th Century only three years before he died.
St. Raphael of Brooklyn 1860-1915 said:
Experience has forced upon me the conviction that to promote
courtesy and friendship, which seems to be the only aim of the
Union at present, not only amounts to killing precious time, at
best, but also is somewhat hurtful to the religious and
ecclesiastical welfare of the Holy Orthodox Church in these
United States… I view union as only a pleasing dream. Indeed, it
is impossible for the Holy Orthodox Church to receive—as She has
a thousand times proclaimed, and as even the Papal See of Rome
has declaimed to the Holy Orthodox Church’ s credit—anyone into
Her Fold or into union with Her who does not accept Her Faith in
full without any qualifications—the Faith which She claims is
most surely Apostolic. (Letter of Resignation from the Anglican
and Orthodox Churches Union, published in the Russian Orthodox
Messenger, February 18, 1912)
St. Basil, On the Holy Spirit, Ch. XXX: Exposition of the
present state of the Churches, describes a state of affairs that
is similar to our own. He writes,
Did it not at one time appear that the Arian schism, after its
separation into a sect opposed to the Church of God, stood
itself alone in hostile array? But when the attitude of our foes
against us was changed from one of long standing and bitter
strife to one of open warfare, then, as is well known, the war
was split up in more ways than I can tell into many
subdivisions, so that all men were stirred to a state of
inveterate hatred alike by common party spirit and individual
suspicion. But what storm at sea was ever so fierce and wild as
this tempest of the Churches? In it every landmark of the
Fathers has been moved; every foundation. every bulwark of
opinion has been shaken: everything buoyed up on the unsound is
dashed about and shaken down. We attack one another. We are
overthrown by one another. If our enemy is not the first to
strike us, we are wounded by the comrade at our side.
#Post#: 452--------------------------------------------------
Re: Helpful links on True Orthodoxy
DIR By: stanley123
Date: November 2, 2014, 5:43 pm
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Is there a list of the True Orthodox Churches in the USA?
Does the True Orthodox Church accept members of the Eastern
Orthodox Church or of the Macedonian Orthodox Church or of the
Ukranian Orthodox Church KP, for Holy Communion?
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Re: Helpful links on True Orthodoxy
DIR By: Maria
Date: November 2, 2014, 7:14 pm
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--- Quote from: stanley123 link ---
>
> Is there a list of the True Orthodox Churches in the USA?
> Does the True Orthodox Church accept members of the Eastern
Orthodox Church or of the Macedonian Orthodox Church or of the
Ukranian Orthodox Church KP, for Holy Communion?
>
>
--- End Quote ---
1. Is there a list of the True Orthodox Churches in the USA?
At the link below, I have tried to provide a listing of all
True Orthodox Churches worldwide. There have been some changes,
so I am trying to get some updated information. However, some
jurisdictions are not computer savvy, so they have not updated
their information at their websites. Others do not even have
websites.
HTML http://www.euphrosynoscafe.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10260
Nevertheless, I must mention that there are some vagante
churches that parade around as True Orthodox or Orthodox
Catholic Churches when they are neither True Orthodox, nor
Catholic, nor part of any recognized jurisdiction.
2. Does the True Orthodox Church accept members of the Eastern
Orthodox Church or of the Macedonian Orthodox Church or of the
Ukranian Orthodox Church KP, for Holy Communion?
Unfortunately, no. The True Orthodox Church is not in communion
with those Eastern Orthodox Churches who are in communion with
the MP, KP, or EP. If any of these churches were to submit to
the Old Calendar and reject Ecumenism, then that would open the
door to intercommunion.
If you have not read any of the links in the OP (my first post
above), then you might want to do so. At least read the article,
On the Calendar Question, by Fr. Basile Sakkos who wrote this
essay for the ROCOR under St. Philaret of New York.
#Post#: 471--------------------------------------------------
Re: Helpful links on True Orthodoxy
DIR By: stanley123
Date: November 2, 2014, 7:20 pm
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--- Quote from: Maria link ---
>
> [quote author=stanley123 link=topic=91.msg452#msg452
date=1414971799]
> Is there a list of the True Orthodox Churches in the USA?
> Does the True Orthodox Church accept members of the Eastern
Orthodox Church or of the Macedonian Orthodox Church or of the
Ukranian Orthodox Church KP, for Holy Communion?
>
>
--- End Quote ---
1. Is there a list of the True Orthodox Churches in the USA?
At the link below, I have tried to provide a listing of all
True Orthodox Churches worldwide. There have been some changes,
so I am trying to get some updated information. However, some
jurisdictions are not computer savvy, so they have not updated
their information at their websites. Others do not even have
websites.
HTML http://www.euphrosynoscafe.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10260
Nevertheless, I must mention that there are some vagante
churches that parade around as True Orthodox or Orthodox
Catholic Churches when they are neither True Orthodox, nor
Catholic, nor part of any recognized jurisdiction.
2. Does the True Orthodox Church accept members of the Eastern
Orthodox Church or of the Macedonian Orthodox Church or of the
Ukranian Orthodox Church KP, for Holy Communion?
Unfortunately, no. The True Orthodox Church is not in communion
with those Eastern Orthodox Churches who are in communion with
the MP, KP, or EP. If any of these churches were to submit to
the Old Calendar and reject Ecumenism, then that would open the
door to intercommunion.
If you have not read any of the links in the OP (my first post
above), then you might want to do so. At least read the article,
On the Calendar Question, by Fr. Basile Sakkos who wrote this
essay for the ROCOR under St. Philaret of New York.
[/quote]I thought that the MP used the Old Calendar?
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Re: Helpful links on True Orthodoxy
DIR By: stanley123
Date: November 2, 2014, 7:58 pm
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--- Quote from: Maria link ---
>
> 2. Does the True Orthodox Church accept members of the Eastern
Orthodox Church or of the Macedonian Orthodox Church or of the
Ukranian Orthodox Church KP, for Holy Communion?
>
> Unfortunately, no. The True Orthodox Church is not in
communion with those Eastern Orthodox Churches who are in
communion with the MP, KP, or EP. If any of these churches were
to submit to the Old Calendar and reject Ecumenism, then that
would open the door to intercommunion.
--- End Quote ---
Is this something mentioned in the New Testament, that in
order to be a good Christian, you have to follow the calendar
introduced by Julius Caesar in 46 BC ? Is it a mortal sin if you
do not follow the calendar introduced by Julius Caesar?
#Post#: 475--------------------------------------------------
Re: Helpful links on True Orthodoxy
DIR By: Maria
Date: November 2, 2014, 8:04 pm
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--- Quote from: stanley123 link ---
>
> [quote author=Maria link=topic=91.msg470#msg470
date=1414977249]
> [quote author=stanley123 link=topic=91.msg452#msg452
date=1414971799]
> Is there a list of the True Orthodox Churches in the USA?
> Does the True Orthodox Church accept members of the Eastern
Orthodox Church or of the Macedonian Orthodox Church or of the
Ukranian Orthodox Church KP, for Holy Communion?
>
>
--- End Quote ---
1. Is there a list of the True Orthodox Churches in the USA?
At the link below, I have tried to provide a listing of all
True Orthodox Churches worldwide. There have been some changes,
so I am trying to get some updated information. However, some
jurisdictions are not computer savvy, so they have not updated
their information at their websites. Others do not even have
websites.
HTML http://www.euphrosynoscafe.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10260
Nevertheless, I must mention that there are some vagante
churches that parade around as True Orthodox or Orthodox
Catholic Churches when they are neither True Orthodox, nor
Catholic, nor part of any recognized jurisdiction.
2. Does the True Orthodox Church accept members of the Eastern
Orthodox Church or of the Macedonian Orthodox Church or of the
Ukranian Orthodox Church KP, for Holy Communion?
Unfortunately, no. The True Orthodox Church is not in communion
with those Eastern Orthodox Churches who are in communion with
the MP, KP, or EP. If any of these churches were to submit to
the Old Calendar and reject Ecumenism, then that would open the
door to intercommunion.
If you have not read any of the links in the OP (my first post
above), then you might want to do so. At least read the article,
On the Calendar Question, by Fr. Basile Sakkos who wrote this
essay for the ROCOR under St. Philaret of New York.
[/quote]I thought that the MP used the Old Calendar?
[/quote]
Even though the MP uses the Old Calendar, he supports Ecumenism.
Furthermore, he allows intercommunion with the New Calendarists.
For example, both the MP and the ROCOR-MP have had
concelebrations with the OCA, which is under the New Calendar.
#Post#: 476--------------------------------------------------
Re: Helpful links on True Orthodoxy
DIR By: Maria
Date: November 2, 2014, 8:09 pm
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--- Quote from: stanley123 link ---
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> [quote author=Maria link=topic=91.msg470#msg470
date=1414977249]
> 2. Does the True Orthodox Church accept members of the Eastern
Orthodox Church or of the Macedonian Orthodox Church or of the
Ukranian Orthodox Church KP, for Holy Communion?
>
> Unfortunately, no. The True Orthodox Church is not in
communion with those Eastern Orthodox Churches who are in
communion with the MP, KP, or EP. If any of these churches were
to submit to the Old Calendar and reject Ecumenism, then that
would open the door to intercommunion.
--- End Quote ---
Is this something mentioned in the New Testament, that in
order to be a good Christian, you have to follow the calendar
introduced by Julius Caesar in 46 BC ? Is it a mortal sin if you
do not follow the calendar introduced by Julius Caesar?
[/quote]
Again, please read the article by Fr. Basile Sakkas, On the
Calendar Question.
He covers that very nicely.
#Post#: 478--------------------------------------------------
Re: Helpful links on True Orthodoxy
DIR By: stanley123
Date: November 2, 2014, 8:24 pm
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Can we have a separate thread on the calendar issue where we
will be able to present our arguments either for or against the
mandatory use of the Old Calendar?
#Post#: 480--------------------------------------------------
Re: Helpful links on True Orthodoxy
DIR By: Maria
Date: November 2, 2014, 8:38 pm
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--- Quote from: stanley123 link ---
>
> Can we have a separate thread on the calendar issue where we
will be able to present our arguments either for or against the
mandatory use of the Old Calendar?
>
--- End Quote ---
Once you have 50 posts, you can start a new thread in one of the
three Private Polemics Forums where you can ask that question.
However, please post informative posts until that time.
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