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Antidoron: blessed bread that is set aside during the DIvine Li
turgy
By: Maria Date: October 25, 2014, 8:55 pm
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The question of giving Antidoron to divorced and to those in SS
marriages came up in another forum
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Regarding Antidoron:
Antidoron is bread that is blessed during the Divine Liturgy of
the Orthodox Church. In large parishes, multiple loaves of
phosphora (altar bread made of wheat flour, leaven, water, and
salt)are brought to the priest. The priest will choose the best
phosphora for the Holy Eucharist, cut out the Lamb (that portion
of the bread used during the Anaphora that becomes the Precious
Body of Christ), and then he will reserve the remainder of the
bread, bless it, and distribute it as Antidoron.
This blessed bread is used twice:
(1) Immediately after the reception of Holy Communion, the
faithful are given a piece of Antidoron to eat, so that they
will not inadvertently spit out the Eucharist when they are
singing. In Russian or Slavic parishes, there is also the
tradition of taking a little blessed diluted wine first to wash
down any particles of the Holy Eucharist, then they eat the
Antidoron.
(2) At the end of the Divine Liturgy, the priest hands out
pieces of Antidoron to those faithful who have not received Holy
Communion where it is given to them "in place of the Eucharist."
In True Orthodox churches, Antidoron is given "in place of the
Eucharist" to the faithful who cannot receive Holy Communion
because they have arrived late or have not sufficiently prepared
themselves. Antidoron is not given to Christians outside of the
True Orthodox jurisdiction. Neither is it given to catechumens,
nor to those in communion with the EP and the MP, as it is only
given to baptized True Orthodox Christians in good standing.
On the other hand, in those Orthodox parishes which are in
communion with the EP and the MP, Antidoron is given to
everyone whether they are Christian, Jews, Muslim, Buddhist,
Hindu, pagans, atheists, etc. Remember that this is blessed
bread, and it is a sacramental.
Should non-Christians or Satanists be given antidoron?
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Re: Antidoron: blessed bread that is set aside during the DIvin
e Liturgy
By: charbelkaleab Date: October 26, 2014, 8:28 am
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No, no, no only Orthodox faithful. With Catholics, I am not sure
if I accept it or not tho'. But by others NO!
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Re: Antidoron: blessed bread that is set aside during the DIvin
e Liturgy
By: marc hanna Date: October 27, 2014, 2:08 pm
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Distribution and receipt of the the Eucharist is a sacrament. I
have read nothing in the fathers that suggests that the
Antidoron is part of the sacrament. I'm not saying I'm for or
against distribution to non-Christians, but I am concerned here
that the facts are not accurate.
A priest may perform all sorts of blessings, but it does not
mean that these exhibit any sacramental attributes.
This also calls into question, who we deem to be Christians, are
they those who share the same Apostolic Faith as us, those who
accept the Nicene-Constantinopolian Creed, those who only accept
Christ as God, or only those who profess to be Christian.
The Eucharist is reserved only for those who admit the Apostolic
Faith and are baptized and chrismated into it, whereas the
antidoron is meant for some relatively undefined contingency.
The general context in which it is usually given to non-Orthodox
is as an olive branch to any and all visitors to the
congregation.
BTW, this was my first post. Hi.
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Re: Antidoron: blessed bread that is set aside during the DIvin
e Liturgy
By: charbelkaleab Date: October 27, 2014, 2:34 pm
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[quote author=marc hanna link=topic=7.msg71#msg71
date=1414436903]
Distribution and receipt of the the Eucharist is a sacrament. I
have read nothing in the fathers that suggests that the
Antidoron is part of the sacrament. I'm not saying I'm for or
against distribution to non-Christians, but I am concerned here
that the facts are not accurate.
A priest may perform all sorts of blessings, but it does not
mean that these exhibit any sacramental attributes.
This also calls into question, who we deem to be Christians, are
they those who share the same Apostolic Faith as us, those who
accept the Nicene-Constantinopolian Creed, those who only accept
Christ as God, or only those who profess to be Christian.
The Eucharist is reserved only for those who admit the Apostolic
Faith and are baptized and chrismated into it, whereas the
antidoron is meant for some relatively undefined contingency.
The general context in which it is usually given to non-Orthodox
is as an olive branch to any and all visitors to the
congregation.
BTW, this was my first post. Hi.
[/quote]
Good points! And Hi! Welcome!
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Re: Antidoron: blessed bread that is set aside during the DIvin
e Liturgy
By: Maria Date: October 27, 2014, 5:51 pm
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Apparently, only the True Orthodox reserve the Antidoron for
those Orthodox Christians in good standing who have not had time
to prepare themselves for the reception of Holy Communion by
confession, prayerful reading of the Pre-Communion prayers, and
arriving on time before the Epistle.
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Re: Antidoron: blessed bread that is set aside during the DIvin
e Liturgy
By: marc hanna Date: October 27, 2014, 6:10 pm
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True Orthodox is in the eye of the beholder; let's not forget
the Tome of Leo :) . If you're referring to Eastern Orthodox,
that is the only place that I've received the antidoron although
not being in communion.
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Re: Antidoron: blessed bread that is set aside during the DIvin
e Liturgy
By: FaithfulDespiteDoubt Date: October 27, 2014, 6:54 pm
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[quote author=marc hanna link=topic=7.msg96#msg96
date=1414451408]
True Orthodox is in the eye of the beholder; let's not forget
the Tome of Leo :) . If you're referring to Eastern Orthodox,
that is the only place that I've received the antidoron although
not being in communion.
[/quote]
True Orthodox is a denomination that separated from the Russian
Orthodox Church.
Hence: True Orthodox
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Re: Antidoron: blessed bread that is set aside during the DIvin
e Liturgy
By: marc hanna Date: October 27, 2014, 7:21 pm
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As anyone who has been on other forums, we know where this
inevitably goes. I'm always game to vet it out, but you might
want to consider another sub-forum that deals with polemics that
is user restricted so as not to "offend one of these little
ones"
May the Grace and Peace of Christ our Lord be with you all.
#Post#: 106--------------------------------------------------
Re: Antidoron: blessed bread that is set aside during the DIvin
e Liturgy
By: Maria Date: October 27, 2014, 8:05 pm
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Mod Note:
Regarding polemics, there are now three new Moderated Private
Forums to discuss religious polemics.
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Re: Antidoron: blessed bread that is set aside during the DIvin
e Liturgy
By: marc hanna Date: October 27, 2014, 8:40 pm
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Will there be invites?
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