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#Post#: 651--------------------------------------------------
Re: Major Differences?
By: marc hanna Date: November 6, 2014, 6:36 pm
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Not all priests are well informed on this, regardless of whether
they are RC, EO, or OO.
When I have some time I'll dig up the declarations and post some
links.
#Post#: 653--------------------------------------------------
Re: Major Differences?
By: stanley123 Date: November 6, 2014, 8:33 pm
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[quote author=Aquila link=topic=34.msg649#msg649
date=1415313402]
[quote author=marc hanna link=topic=34.msg641#msg641
date=1415305127]
That being said there is a joint declaration between the RC, EO,
and OO churches that if one is travelling in an area where there
is no church of which they belong, the person may receive
communion in the other churches.
[/quote]
My EO friends tell me that their priests are not allowed to give
communion to anyone who is not a member of their church, and if
an EO person has communion in any other church, this is a very
serious matter.
[/quote]What country is this? I have found that the rules are
not all the same, or at least enforced in the same way, across
different countries.
#Post#: 662--------------------------------------------------
Re: Major Differences?
By: marc hanna Date: November 6, 2014, 8:46 pm
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Quite frankly, this may vary from parish to parish. All Eastern
Orthodox answering to the Ecumenical Patriarch will have the
same "rules" on matters such as this. Oriental Orthodox
churches will have their own rules according to their patriarch.
Rules according to country are very superficial, such as what
language they're allowed to pray the liturgy in.
#Post#: 671--------------------------------------------------
Re: Major Differences?
By: Aquila Date: November 6, 2014, 9:00 pm
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[quote author=stanley123 link=topic=34.msg653#msg653
date=1415327623]
[quote author=Aquila link=topic=34.msg649#msg649
date=1415313402]
[quote author=marc hanna link=topic=34.msg641#msg641
date=1415305127]
That being said there is a joint declaration between the RC, EO,
and OO churches that if one is travelling in an area where there
is no church of which they belong, the person may receive
communion in the other churches.
[/quote]
My EO friends tell me that their priests are not allowed to give
communion to anyone who is not a member of their church, and if
an EO person has communion in any other church, this is a very
serious matter.
[/quote]What country is this? I have found that the rules are
not all the same, or at least enforced in the same way, across
different countries.
[/quote]
The Orthodox people I know come from several countries and
church groups (I think they're called "jurisdictions"?), and all
said the same thing: No communion to anyone who is not EO, and
no communion is allowed for an EO from a church which is not EO.
#Post#: 672--------------------------------------------------
Re: Major Differences?
By: marc hanna Date: November 6, 2014, 9:03 pm
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At the parish level, there is e certain level of animosity
against Catholics.
#Post#: 675--------------------------------------------------
Re: Major Differences?
By: Maria Date: November 6, 2014, 9:07 pm
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[quote author=Aquila link=topic=34.msg671#msg671
date=1415329255]
[quote author=stanley123 link=topic=34.msg653#msg653
date=1415327623]
[quote author=Aquila link=topic=34.msg649#msg649
date=1415313402]
[quote author=marc hanna link=topic=34.msg641#msg641
date=1415305127]
That being said there is a joint declaration between the RC, EO,
and OO churches that if one is travelling in an area where there
is no church of which they belong, the person may receive
communion in the other churches.
[/quote]
My EO friends tell me that their priests are not allowed to give
communion to anyone who is not a member of their church, and if
an EO person has communion in any other church, this is a very
serious matter.
[/quote]What country is this? I have found that the rules are
not all the same, or at least enforced in the same way, across
different countries.
[/quote]
The Orthodox people I know come from several countries and
church groups (I think they're called "jurisdictions"?), and all
said the same thing: No communion to anyone who is not EO, and
no communion is allowed for an EO from a church which is not EO.
[/quote]
Things in the real world are not so black and white.
For example, in the Middle East, there are some parishes in
Muslim areas where the faithful can only have one Christian
Church and one service, so Melkite Catholics and Antiochians
have a shared Divine Liturgy.
In the continental USA, you might not find intercommunion, but
in Alaska, if a person is dying, the OCA will give the last
sacraments to Catholics. However, dying Catholics would be
expected to make a confession beforehand. This information was
shared with me by an Orthodox Priest who used to serve in
Alaska.
#Post#: 715--------------------------------------------------
Re: Major Differences?
By: stanley123 Date: November 7, 2014, 2:01 am
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[quote author=marc hanna link=topic=34.msg672#msg672
date=1415329408]
At the parish level, there is e certain level of animosity
against Catholics.
[/quote]Depends on the parish. I went to the beautiful Greek
Orthodox cathedral in Los Angeles and mentioned that I was Roman
Catholic. They were very welcoming and after the liturgy in the
hall they took the time to show and explain to us the beautiful
icons in the church and how the church came to be as it is
today. It was similar with a Romanian Orthodox church that I had
visited. Unfortunately, it was not the case with an Antiochan
Orthodox Church, where the priest yelled at me rather loudly
that I was a heretic and not welcome at his classes.
#Post#: 720--------------------------------------------------
Re: Major Differences?
By: marc hanna Date: November 7, 2014, 7:54 am
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Oh absolutely. I didn't mean to group everyone together. I
have had similar experiences, but not as harsh.
#Post#: 749--------------------------------------------------
Re: Major Differences?
By: Maria Date: November 7, 2014, 9:54 pm
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[quote author=stanley123 link=topic=34.msg715#msg715
date=1415347276]
[quote author=marc hanna link=topic=34.msg672#msg672
date=1415329408]
At the parish level, there is e certain level of animosity
against Catholics.
[/quote]Depends on the parish. I went to the beautiful Greek
Orthodox cathedral in Los Angeles and mentioned that I was Roman
Catholic. They were very welcoming and after the liturgy in the
hall they took the time to show and explain to us the beautiful
icons in the church and how the church came to be as it is
today. It was similar with a Romanian Orthodox church that I had
visited. Unfortunately, it was not the case with an Antiochan
Orthodox Church, where the priest yelled at me rather loudly
that I was a heretic and not welcome at his classes.
[/quote]
Which Antiochian Orthodox Church was that?
There are quite a few Antiochian parishes that are pastored by
ex-Protestants who can be rather anti-Catholic, but I never had
that experience and I visited several Antiochian parishes while
I was still a Roman Catholic inquirer into Orthodoxy. Perhaps
that priest was having a bad day.
#Post#: 752--------------------------------------------------
Re: Major Differences?
By: stanley123 Date: November 7, 2014, 10:40 pm
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[quote author=Maria link=topic=34.msg749#msg749 date=1415418875]
There are quite a few Antiochian parishes that are pastored by
ex-Protestants who can be rather anti-Catholic,...[/quote]That
was the case in this instance.
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