DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
---------------------------------------------------------
Opening of the Way
HTML https://openingoftheway.createaforum.com
---------------------------------------------------------
*****************************************************
DIR Return to: Philosophy, Religion, Esoteric, Occult
*****************************************************
#Post#: 8--------------------------------------------------
Free Masonry and Communism
DIR By: forbitals
Date: February 5, 2019, 8:06 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
The Life of Toussaint Louverture
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N4PkXyHss8
That there is some similarity in the thinking underlying Masonry
and Marxism is obvious. But I have never seen that Masonry goes
that far, usually being something of the Middle-Class and
working as an Opiate just like Religion does.
So, what do others say about this?
Marx on Freemasonry
HTML http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/marx_k.html
Why was Karl Marx considered a Freemason?
HTML https://www.quora.com/Why-was-Karl-Marx-considered-a-Freemason
Nazi Persecution of Freemasonry
HTML http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/ushmm.html
Karl Marx on Freemasonry
HTML https://gnosticwarrior.com/karl-marx-on-freemasonry.html
Workers' Movement: Marxism against Freemasonry
HTML http://en.internationalism.org/content/3741/workers-movement-marxism-against-freemasonry
"Combating the bourgeoisie's fascination for the hidden and
mysterious, Marx and Engels showed that the proletariat is the
enemy of every kind of policy of secrecy and mystification."
"In France, already after 1968, the bourgeoisie was using its
"neo- Templar", "Rosicrucian" and "Martinist" sects in order to
infiltrate leftist and other groups, in collaboration with the
SAC services. For example, Luc Jeuret, the guru of the "Sun
Temple" began his career by infiltrating Maoist groups (L 'Ordre
du Temple Solaire, from page 145 on)."
"
In fact, the following years saw the appearance of organisations
of the type used against the proletarian revolution in the 20s.
On the extreme right, the Front Europeen de Liberation has
revived the "National-bolshevik" tradition. In Germany, the
Sozialrevolutionare Arbeiterfront (Social Revolutionary Workers'
Front), following its motto "the frontier is not between left
and right but between above and below" is specialised in
infiltrating different "left wing" movements. The Thule Society
has also been refounded as a counter revolutionary secret
society[13].
"
"
Left-wing versions of such counter-revolutionary organisations
are no less active. In France, for instance, new sects have been
established in the tradition of "Martinism", a variant of
freemasonry historically specialised in the infiltration and
subversion of workers' organisations. Such groups put forward
the idea that communism can best be achieved by the
manipulations of an enlightened minority. Like other sects, they
are specialised in the art of manipulating people.
"
"
More generally, the development of occult sects and esoteric
groupings in the past years is not only an expression of the
petty bourgeoisie's hopelessness and hysteria at the historic
situation, but is encouraged and organised by the state. The
role of these sects in inter-imperialist rivalries is known (e.g
the use of Scientology by the US bourgeoisie against Germany).
But this whole "esoteric" movement is equally part of the
bourgeois ideological onslaught against marxism, especially
after 1989 with the alleged "death of communism". Historically,
it was in face of the rising socialist movement that the
European bourgeoisie began to identify with the mystical
ideology of freemasonry, especially after the 1848 revolutions.
Today, the unbridled hatred of esotericism for materialism and
marxism, as well as for the proletarian masses considered
"materialistic" and "stupid", is nothing else but the
concentrated hatred of the bourgeoisie and parts of the petty
bourgeoisie for an undefeated proletariat. Unable itself to
offer any historical alternative, the bourgeoisie opposes
marxism with the lie that stalinism was communist, but also with
the mystical vision that the world can only be "saved" when
consciousness and rationality have been replaced by ritual,
intuition and hocus-pocus.
In the face of today's decomposition of capitalist society, it
is the task of revolutionaries to draw the lessons of the
experience of the workers movement against what Lenin called
"mysticism as a cloak for counter-revolutionary moods". And it
is our task to reappropriate the vigilance of the workers'
movement of the past against the manipulations and infiltration
of the occult apparatus of the bourgeoisie.
"
**************** The Very Negative View Of Esoteric Groups
Which I Would Have Expected From A Marxist Source. And more
often than not I think it completely warranted. But does it
always have to be that way?
******************************************
HTML http://staffs.proboards.com/thread/7141
"As a dire hard Socialist, the most interesting part of
Freemasonry for me is it's deeply Socialist message. All equal,
no class nor caste. Of course, the gender exclusion is nonsense
but that is mainly a relic of a patriarchal age."
HTML http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/allende_s/allende_s.html
Salvador Allende, founded Chile's Socialist Party in 1933, Mason
"
Debray: I've always heard that you've had connections with
freemasonry and yet you are a Marxist; you know at one time
there was a serious dispute within the international workers'
movement. For example, in France in the twenties, the freemasons
were expelled from the Communist Party, which was then in its
infancy. Do you see a contradiction between your supposed
connections with freemasonry and your Marxist position, your
class position?
Allende: First, Régis, let me remind you that the first
Secretary Général of the French Communist Party was a freemason.
Debray: Yes, yes ...
Allende: And that it was only by the time of the Third
International that incompatibility between the two movements was
established.
Debray: Yes.
Allende: Now, from a personal point of view, I have a masonic
background. My grandfather, Dr Allende Padin was a Most Serene
Grand Master of the Masonic Order in the nineteenth century,
when being a freemason meant being involved in a struggle. The
Masonic Lodges and the Lautaro Lodges were the corner stone of
independence and the struggle against Spain.
Debray: Bolivar and Sucre were freemasons.
Allende: Exactly. So you can understand perfectly well that,
with this kind of family tradition, and again, since the masonic
movement fought for fundamental principles like Liberty,
Equality and Fraternity, one can viably have such connections.
Now I have maintained within the masonic movement that there
cannot be equality in the capitalist régime, not even equality
of opportunity, of course; that there cannot be fraternity while
there is class exploitation, and that true liberty is a concrete
and not an abstract notion. So you see I interpret the
principles of freemasonry according to their true content. Now,
I know perfectly well that there are countries where freemasonry
could not be considered consistent with these principles.
"
And guys are posting this stuff while being told that politics
is verboten on the Masonic Message Board and in the Masonic
Lodges.
"Freemasonry has not, by any stretch of the imagination, been
largely associated with the Left. Yes, many of the smaller
European Grand Orients and Grand Lodges to take a strong
humanist stance, but lets be honest- the bigger, more important
Grand Lodges are populated by men who mainly have a particular
attachment to the current, capitalist, system. Having
experienced Freemasonry on four continents, its not a hotbed of
Socialist reform."
Why Do Freemasons Like Pope Francis So Much?
HTML http://culturalmarxism.net/why-does-freemasonry-openly-support-pope-francis/
Were Marx, Lenin, or Trotsky Freemasons?
HTML https://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=253073.0
Communism and Freemasonry ( seems to be an anti-freemasonry
board )
HTML http://freemasonrywatch.org/communism.html
from above, "Some Objections to Socialism"
HTML http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/xcart/Some-Objections-to-Socialism.html
Communism and Freemasonry
HTML https://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Communism_and_Freemasonry
Masonic Links
HTML http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/links/masonsites.html
more
HTML http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/links/lodges.html
Salvador Allende
HTML http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/allende_s/allende_s.html
Universal Co-Masonry, books
HTML https://www.universalfreemasonry.org/en/masonic-library
My conclusion, most always freemasonry is a bourgeoisie affair.
But built into its core ideas is still the potential for
revolution. And we see this surfacing in how they supported the
French Revolution. And then we see more of this in how Le Droit
Humaine broke away, and then Universal Co-Masonry in the US
broke away from that. So it is easy to break away, just get a
few Masons, I guess 33rd Degree, and then you can form your own.
*****************************************************
Page 1 of 1