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Reply to Someone Else, Stigma and Discrimination
DIR By: forbitals
Date: July 22, 2019, 5:34 pm
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I agree 100% with Someone Else, and great links too.
And I want to emphasize that it is not just Psychiatry and the
Biomedical Model. Psychotherpy has always worked like religion.
It runs on a Moral Improvement Model.
Freud got his approval and social standing by selling out his
patients, female ~hysterics~, and saying that they were lying or
fantasizing about early childhood sexual molestation.
Now today, there would be consequences if a therapist tried to
do that, call the client a liar. But they still take the
position that though they believe what you are saying, that it
still does not rise to the level of anything which you need to
do anything about. So they are dismissing it, taking on the
role of a judge, and deeming that you have no case.
Psychotherpy and the Recovery Movement have painted the picture
that childhood trauma is harmful because it creates memories,
and then that the harm is in these memories. And these memories
exist like a film of events. It might be conscious, or
following Freud, it might be unconscious.
But this is a horrible and no longer applied model of cognition.
It seems to go back to John Locke.
"He offered an empiricist theory according to which we acquire
ideas through our experience of the world. The mind is then able
to examine, compare, and combine these ideas in numerous
different ways. Knowledge consists of a special kind of
relationship between different ideas."
HTML https://www.iep.utm.edu/locke/
So your therapist will try to surface these memories. They used
to try to eradicate them. But this is less and less. But it is
still completely faulty. You have to look at the entire course
of your life and at your present experience, to see how abuse
and trauma has effected. Most of the time what it does,
consisting of betrayal, is it limits your social options. So it
makes it harder to form intimate relationships, it makes it
harder to get an education, and it makes it harder to build a
career.
If people understood how much the course of their life had been
shaped by lies, denial, hypocrisy, and betrayal, the they would
be leading the charge to hold perpetrators accountable.
But we don't see this, instead we see survivors echoing the
language of psychotherapy and recovery, "healing" "leaving it
behind" "forgiveness", and acting like nothing happened. And
the reason for this is that your psychiatrist needs to protect
their own denial systems. And the whole basis of their
profession is that just by manipulating the victim, the wrong is
corrected.
They like to say in Recovery programs, "the only person you have
control over is yourself". And this is totally untrue. I
helped 3 girls get their father a long sentence in our state
prison. A local attorney got a woman a $500k judgment against a
childhood sexual abuser.
So what is it that is true? It's that "Your Psychotherapist can
only exploit the one who comes to their office, you!"
Here, Hubert Dreyfus, an expert on Heidegger and Existentialism
shows that both Freud and Edmund Husserl studied under the same
Franz Brentano. And they each came to represent different
paths. Then following from Husserl to Maurice Mearleau-Ponty he
shows us a different way of relating to ~Psycho Pathology~.
HTML https://web.archive.org/web/20061214214634/http://ist-socrates.berkeley.edu/~hdreyfus/html/paper_alternative.html
Of course I am not endorsing any idea of ~Psycho Pathology~, but
I am simply saying that to appreciate how much one's life has
been effected by trauma, one has to completely deconstruct ones
self. Just coming up with a film of events does not in anyway
come close.
And then the most severe abuses will usually be coming from
primary care takers, and they amount to serious betrayal. Most
middle-class child abuse ( physical, emotional, medical, and
sexual ) are being rationalized as necessitated by the
Self-Reliance Ethic. Being able to do this and to create for
themselves an unstigmatized adult identity will usually be why
the parent decided to have children in the first place. And for
the most part our society exonerates them, and this will be
continuing as you walk into your psychotherapist's office.
We should not be talking with psychotherapists, or clergy, or
psychiatrists.
A better model of cognition:
HTML https://www.amazon.com/Tree-Knowledge-Biological-Roots-Understanding/dp/0877736421/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=XBHDRNJT08771NXD57ZS
HTML https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0262720213/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0
And about this idealized autonomous subject which conservative
political theory tends to create:
HTML https://www.amazon.com/Anti-Social-Family-Radical-Thinkers/dp/1781687595/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=anti-social+family&qid=1563834181&s=books&sr=1-1
And then about how Jefferson was breaking with one of his
intellectual mentors, John Locke, in his preamble:
HTML https://www.amazon.com/God-Other-Famous-Liberals-Reclaiming/dp/067176120X/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=f.+forrester+church&qid=1563834236&s=books&sr=1-4
And before I forget, how to people feel about a movement to
label children with ~neurological difference~, and then to be
telling them to build their lives around the doctrine of
Cognitive Liberty and the concept of ~neurodiversity~?
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