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Autism, France
DIR By: forbitals
Date: June 18, 2019, 5:00 pm
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Here, Françoise Dolto, this is what makes the American Austism
Promoters livid.
Here, only 75,000 accessed, but probably 700,000 autistics. So
most have not been accessed. Horrible, Horrible, Horrible!
So what do they have, ABA and PRT therapy, with aversive and
rewards, and teaching children to read with electrical shocks?
No, this is how it is done in the United States.
In France they have a network of special 0 - 4 years day care
centers where psychoanalysis consists of supervised play
therapy.
Here, the text of this article shows the rage in the American
Autism Advocates. Hard to see though in the pictures what they
are so angry about.
HTML http://theconversation.com/frances-autism-problem-and-its-roots-in-psychoanalysis-94210
A special 0 to 4 years daycare, and where the parents are
welcome to be there too. How could anyone object to that?
Well, these American Autism Advocates are people like Alex
Plank. He has been standing up making speeches about
Autism-Aspergers since he was a teenager. That there is this
~neurological difference~ and that such special treatments are
necessary and that there could be no perpetrators behind this
are core components of his identity. And he runs a forum. On
his forum you cannot question the reality of Autism-Asperger's
as neurologically based disorders.
In France they don't seem to see it this way, seeing it more as
the result of stress and negative experiences, and probably
something which can be grown out of.
I read the writings of these American Autism Advocates, and they
tell me all the things that they thus are not able to do. But
in the stories they tell, and even in that they wrote such
books, they are showing me that not only can they do such
things, but that their abilities are far above average. And the
turning point in their lives always seems to be the point at
which they no longer live with their parents.
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Re: Autism, France
DIR By: forbitals
Date: June 18, 2019, 5:28 pm
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Here, Françoise Dolto, this is what makes the American Austism
Promoters livid.
Here, only 75,000 accessed, but probably 700,000 autistics. So
most have not been accessed. Horrible, Horrible, Horrible!
So what do they have, ABA and PRT therapy, with aversive and
rewards, and teaching children to read with electrical shocks?
No, this is how it is done in the United States.
In France they have a network of special 0 - 4 years day care
centers where psychoanalysis consists of supervised play
therapy.
Here, the text of this article shows the rage in the American
Autism Advocates. Hard to see though in the pictures what they
are so angry about.
HTML http://theconversation.com/frances-autism-problem-and-its-roots-in-psychoanalysis-94210
A special 0 to 4 years daycare, and where the parents are
welcome to be there too. How could anyone object to that?
Well, these American Autism Advocates are people like Alex
Plank. He has been standing up making speeches about
Autism-Aspergers since he was a teenager. That there is this
~neurological difference~ and that such special treatments are
necessary and that there could be no perpetrators behind this
are core components of his identity. And he runs a forum. On
his forum you cannot question the reality of Autism-Asperger's
as neurologically based disorders.
In France they don't seem to see it this way, seeing it more as
the result of stress and negative experiences, and probably
something which can be grown out of.
I read the writings of these American Autism Advocates, and they
tell me all the things that they thus are not able to do. But
in the stories they tell, and even in that they wrote such
books, they are showing me that not only can they do such
things, but that their abilities are far above average. And the
turning point in their lives always seems to be the point at
which they no longer live with their parents.
Here:
HTML https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(14)70290-1/fulltext
Frances is being subjected to international pressure to see this
as the English speaking world does, as necessitating child
torture to obtain compliance.
Whereas the French really see the whole thing as no big deal.
This Charles Melman sees what is being called autism is simply
the result of a non-accepting early childhood.
Here, though machine translated:
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I'm not endorsing psychoanalysis because it is not redress, it
is merely manipulating the sufferer. But compared with how
Autism is treated in the US, behavioral tortures, psychoanalysis
would be a big improvement. It's still a fixmykid doctor, but
its a kind of fixmykid doctor which will terrify parents.
According to Peter Breggin, all of the US Autism Groups are
really just defensive formations of the parents. And then,
redress might come later.
HTML https://autisticacademic.com/tag/jacques-lacan/
"
Ironically, the Lacanian approach to autism argues that autists
are autistic because we fail to pass through a developmental
phase that Lacan calls “the mirror stage.” This is the point at
which the infant (in Lacan’s view) recognizes itself as a being
separate from its mother by virtue of recognizing itself in a
mirror. In Lacanian parlance, autists are “self-absorbed”
because we fail to get through the mirror stage properly; we
somehow fail to develop into a stage capable of self-reflection.
"
I still know that Sami Timimi and his co-authors are correct,
"Autism does not exist". But the French Psychoanalytic approach
is still a big step up from the American interpretation.
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Re: Autism, France
DIR By: forbitals
Date: June 18, 2019, 5:37 pm
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Here, machine translated:
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You can see the intense international pressure to make France
see autism as a real ~neurological difference~, and that it is
the parents who run the associations, in order to protect
themselves from blame, and that it is those who accept the
~Autism Identity~ and want to exonerate any and all
perpetrators, who are the most intense and adamant about holding
on to such a nonsense identity and on getting other children
saddled with it.
Sami Timimi is adamant, no biological markers have ever been
found, and there is a reason for this, they don't exist.
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Re: Autism, France
DIR By: forbitals
Date: June 18, 2019, 5:42 pm
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The parents need to find the locus of Autism ( Original Sin ) in
their child.
And the children who have come of age accepting this, they need
to make people believe that Austism is real, lest they have to
face the alternative conclusion, which is too horrible to
consider.
So who suffers for this? Its the children of today, getting
subjected to torture regimes, being blinded to the sorts of
things they have survived. Usually it seems to be that the
child is an embarrassment for the parent.
This Jayne Lytel is a frightening woman. Munchausen's parent if
ever there was one.
HTML https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/039953394X/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0
What comes through loud and clear in her book is the revulsion
which she and the husband feel for their second child Leo.
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Re: Autism, France
DIR By: forbitals
Date: June 19, 2019, 4:35 pm
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And here he is John Elder Robison himself, being readied for his
transcranial magnet zap:
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Powerful magnetic fields, which change rapidly with time, induce
currents in the axons of the nerve cells inside of his brain.
He feels that this makes him "normal". But it only lasts for a
while, then things return to how they were before.
So because of his books and advocacy, parents are driving their
kids to the doctor right now. Autism-Asperger's has been a
phenomenal gold strike, and child predators are booming the find
in every way which you could imagine.
Robison accepted the Asperger's diagnosis as an adult. And this
was after it was laid on his son. In his 3rd book Robison talks
about watching his son be used and subjected to what Alice
Miller called The Narcissistic Wound, on a daily basis. It's
just that Robison has no understanding of this. And then they
took him to the Yale lab, founded by a major supporter of the
Eugenics Movement, and got him labeled. It was after this that
Robison went and got himself labeled too. Since he has emerged
as a major proponent of Autism-Asperger's. To listen to him
write about it, talking about the design details of rail
locomotives and the giant diesel engines for container ships,
Robison would have us believe that most all of the thousands of
people who work in these fields must have some degree of
Autism-Asperger's, and the same for those with NASA.
Robison needed this assessment because it exonerates all
perpetrators, like his two extremely abusive parents.
And then Robison's son and Alex Plank have gone on to set up an
Autism-Asperger's oriented forum called Wrong Planet. Robison
has tried to deny this, but in his third book he endorses said
forum.
On Wrong Planet people are not allowed to question the reality
of Austim-Asperger's, especially this ~defect disorder
neurological difference~ understanding. Those who try to talk
sense about it are quickly banished.
Alex Plank was diagnosed with this ~neurological difference~
known as Asperger's 20 years ago, at age 9. So back when he was
in high school he started making speeches about it, to educate
everyone, and to give himself a kind of identity which
exonerates perpetrators.
To be completely honest, when I first saw videos of Alex Plank
making these kinds of speeches, I thought to myself, "Nerdy
Kid".
Okay, but that applies to lots and lots of people, and
especially at that age. And of course I am including myself in
this too. Adolescence is often hard. Don't know that it has to
be, but often it is. I mean Muggle Schools which use bullying
to socialize, and the ones really behind it being the teachers
and the parents, it can be really bad.
So John Elder Robison and Alex Plank have very conformist social
views, one is obliged to measure up to normative societal
expectations. Robison says, "They don't owe you any special
exemptions." And then so you can see how important a concept
like this Autism-Asperger's Spectrum then becomes.
Listening to Alex Plank's speeches, I would say that his primary
message is just that this ~neurological difference~ is absolute
objective reality and that there is no way of challenging it and
that you hence must accept it.
Now, Alex Plank is livid about what has been going on in France,
not really taking Autism seriously, and dismissing this
~neurological difference~ idea entirely. But France has elected
a neoliberal government, and so even if people did not see how
much neoliberalism depends upon Autism-Asperger's and on other
things like that, I am sure that now they are coming to
understand. Changes are being made in France. I think they
will be subjecting children to the same kinds of behavioral
tortures which children are being subjected to in the United
States.
I don't know if this really qualifies as an Anti-Pedagogy
Manual, but it is interesting:
HTML https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0143122967/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i3
They talk about getting a child to sleep through the night.
They talk about a "pause" before responding to the cries of a
child who awakens. They talk about how American parents are
actually waking the child up in how quickly they respond.
I read some of it, and there are differences in thinking, and in
temperament.
By Anglo-American standards, I feel that most French, at least
most Parisians, would be considered autistic.
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