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#Post#: 226--------------------------------------------------
The state of Arena
DIR By: Ultra
Date: March 16, 2017, 3:36 pm
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As of right now I could afford to play and actively farm and
test the 3rd ascendancy for almost 2 full days non stop and I
have some bad news.
The arena right now is almost unfarmable. The problem is that
the exe drop seem to be harshly reduced. When we asked for
harder arena we meant for mobs to be harder (so a player
couldn't create a full ene SM to be MSer and still farm items in
arena - I tryed it in 1st asc and it didn't work, which was
good). Previously mobs in arena seemed to be as weak as in
davias.
Now I have farmed almost every set there exists in game from 1st
ascendancy, so I know what is hard and easy here. In 3rd asc
there are moments when I get no exe drop for 20 minutes straight
in arena (especially at black beasts that 'used to' drop shields
before). This situation forces me to pick every exe item, with
or without luck, to get my set together faster. Now so far I
have gotten no good unicorn item in arena+luck in over 48 hours.
I did get some no luck that was pain to get to +9 (considering
that jewels are also much rarer now), but they also almost all
burned to +11. At the end of the day i only have two +10 no luck
items farmed in time in which i would get full +11+16+2 exe
options ANY set in asc 1 or 2.
I have peviously today wrote a complaint thread about exe+luck
drop after which it got delete as I wroe that the there maybe is
no issue. However the no issue came with me being really lucky
in getting the massive +luck drop, one in a million chance and i
assure you it was a one off.
In short: With jewels being rare, having arena exe drop rate
decreased is a total overkill. I had some new players coming in,
i gave them guild and tryed to farm some items for them, and
after hours of farming (yes hours) I got nothing to give to
them, unprecedented in previous ascendancies.
This ultra difficult situation would be fine if we had no
ascendancy system, but right now its almost impossible to farm
items in arena. Also BC is not the answer since its too much of
a chance game to get the parts you need.
Nobody farms items better than me on this server (hence why i
have almost every +11 set), so trust me I know what i'm taling
about. Also i'm the supporter of the harder server, but this is
madness.
Every other map is fine btw, as well as every other change in
the update, only the Arena exe drop needs rise for more
consistent (contrary to just BC) farming for which this map was
made.
I also hope more of the lvl 300 people will write their own
thoughts here.
#Post#: 227--------------------------------------------------
Re: The state of Arena
DIR By: maty04
Date: March 16, 2017, 6:39 pm
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Agree with ultra, dunno what's happening on arena but, the exe
drop its too low and the unicorn set imposibble to farm
#Post#: 228--------------------------------------------------
Re: The state of Arena
DIR By: gepardC
Date: March 16, 2017, 8:11 pm
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Nothing to add, nothing to take. Ultra said it how it is. The
point on suggesting the arena to be ''harder'' was to make the
mobs stronger so they don't fall like dungeon mobs. Instead they
still fall down with few hits and the exe drop is awful. The exe
drop should be better but the mobs should have more hp, more
defense and more attack.
#Post#: 233--------------------------------------------------
Re: The state of Arena
DIR By: ares
Date: March 17, 2017, 11:41 am
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Hello there guys, drop rate of items hasnt change at all. It's
same as Ascendancy 1 and 2.
The only thing that changed was monster HP and DMG. We can try
increase the drop chance but you should know it will be bigger
than previous Ancendancy.
GepardC, you make a mistake here. Arena is not built to be
difficult for MG or people with a lot of agility or people with
+11 sets. Difficulty was set with +9exc set and +9 wings plus
normal based agility.
Arena is difficult for normal based builds. Please rethink
before posting.
If i make arena harder for MG other classes wont be able to farm
there.
"Exe drop is awfull" exc drop rate is like 5exc items per 10
minute or more!
You must all understand what % means and what number means. You
can't have stable drops.
Nor its 1 in a million to drop +luck item.
I can see everything in server and i see:
A LOT of good +luck+2opt items.
A LOT of good Ascendancy 3 items.
Off course we can make you get full set in 2 days if thats what
you want and let the market die by making you find all your gear
by yourself.
Let me know what you want so we can discuss and please before
posting THINK!
All the changes are in website and we didn't reduce at all the
exc drop rate.
#Post#: 237--------------------------------------------------
Re: The state of Arena
DIR By: Ultra
Date: March 17, 2017, 3:16 pm
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Ares, never in previous 2 ascendancies had I the situation where
for 25 minutes i got no exe item drop at all, never ever! Fanas
holds the record now with 30 minutes.
In asc 1 and 2 I went into arena with mentality to ONLY pick
items +luck, cause i was aiming for +11 always. I was working on
PC and every 3-5 minutes checking my char killing mobs and I
always had 1-3 exe items on the ground. After one hour I had
half-full inventory with Pants/Gloves/Weapons etc parts which I
was farming (obviously the difficulty was to get with the option
that i wanted). In both asc 1 and 2 i consistently farmed for 6h
per day (half afk in Arena) and in 3-5 days i had a nice
+11+luck set (with addtional 5 parts per set on average burning
in CM). I never even cared about no luck items.
Now for the past 2 days I played much more activelly than ever
before and all the items that I made to +11 have been without
luck, with much much struggle (made 5 items to +11, all without
luck - failed over 10 parts). The reason they are no luck is
because if i will only pick +luck i wil farm full inventory for
the whole day (i'm talking about single set part here, like only
unicorn boots).
Maybe it is true that you didn't touch the Arena drop rate, but
something changed for sure. Since I play for around 1 month now
I have a very profound perspective, and i'm not alone.
I don't know Ares if you have your own char that you play legit
(without admin 'items'), and have farmed your items. But try to
create a character with lvl 300 stats (like MG, SM) and go to
arena with the aim to farm yourself a unicorn set +rate+hp, for
example. Also +luck cause you wanna go to +11 with less nerves
spent, and you will feel what I mean after 3 days farm. Trust me
i am not bullshitting you.
Especially bugged seem the mobs that drop Pants. I have NEVER
seen unicorn pants +luck drop in Arena, And i have farmed them
the most.
#Post#: 239--------------------------------------------------
Re: The state of Arena
DIR By: ares
Date: March 17, 2017, 3:26 pm
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--- Quote from: Ultra link ---
>
> Ares, never in previous 2 ascendancies had I the situation
where for 25 minutes i got no exe item drop at all, never ever!
Fanas holds the record now with 30 minutes.
>
> In asc 1 and 2 I went into arena with mentality to ONLY pick
items +luck, cause i was aiming for +11 always. I was working on
PC and every 3-5 minutes checking my char killing mobs and I
always had 1-3 exe items on the ground. After one hour I had
half-full inventory with Pants/Gloves/Weapons etc parts which I
was farming (obviously the difficulty was to get with the option
that i wanted). In both asc 1 and 2 i consistently farmed for 6h
per day (half afk in Arena) and in 3-5 days i had a nice
+11+luck set (with addtional 5 parts per set on average burning
in CM). I never even cared about no luck items.
>
> Now for the past 2 days I played much more activelly than ever
before and all the items that I made to +11 have been without
luck, with much much struggle (made 5 items to +11, all without
luck - failed over 10 parts). The reason they are no luck is
because if i will only pick +luck i wil farm full inventory for
the whole day (i'm talking about single set part here, like only
unicorn boots).
>
> Maybe it is true that you didn't touch the Arena drop rate,
but something changed for sure. Since I play for around 1 month
now I have a very profound perspective, and i'm not alone.
> I don't know Ares if you have your own char that you play
legit (without admin 'items'), and have farmed your items. But
try to create a character with lvl 300 stats (like MG, SM) and
go to arena with the aim to farm yourself a unicorn set
+rate+hp, for example. Also +luck cause you wanna go to +11 with
less nerves spent, and you will feel what I mean after 3 days
farm. Trust me i am not bullshitting you.
> Especially bugged seem the mobs that drop Pants. I have NEVER
seen unicorn pants +luck drop in Arena, And i have farmed them
the most.
>
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They only reason you felt drop rate is dropped is because in 1
minute in asc1/2 you killed 500 mobs and now you're killing 250
because they have much more hp. I did a search on uni pants+lck
and there is a page full of them.
Change your mindset, this ascendancy will last 4 weeks not 2.
Enjoy your hardwork or else you will get bored fast.
The only thing i will change for now is Machine rates because i
see a lot of failures on items+luck.
About drop rate we will discuss further with more people. For
now i trust what i see infront of me.
Off course i trust your word but i see that no luck items 2 opt
got value and thats good!
If ascendancy was 2 weeks i would change the drop rate for sure!
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