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       Who knows more about this ?
       By: Arjan Date: February 26, 2017, 3:29 am
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       Has anybody seen these before ?
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       Please tell what you know...
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       Re: Who knows more about this ?
       By: Peter de Dawg Date: February 26, 2017, 4:44 am
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       That's brilliant.
       There's a local guy who's got a big Jap/chink 4x4 with a massive
       caravan that works on exactly the same principle, so still a
       viable and presumably (surprisingly) legal set up.
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       Re: Who knows more about this ?
       By: rambler Date: February 26, 2017, 6:16 am
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       These are termed 5th wheels in Canada.  Would be great to have
       this on a Land Rover rather than a monster pick up!
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       Re: Who knows more about this ?
       By: prof-pat-pending Date: February 26, 2017, 11:56 am
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       Quite common idea
       The kits are readily available
       Trailer braking is an issue as you usually have to use electric
       braking system
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       Re: Who knows more about this ?
       By: w3526602 Date: February 27, 2017, 3:39 am
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       Hi,
       I looked up electric trailer brakes on Google. Normal in
       America, but I don't think it is allowed in UK.
       Query does a UK Cat.B licence cover artics?  Partially
       super-imposed used to mean 20% of trailer weight imposed on
       towing vehicle. I don't know the answer, but I would find out
       before driving such a rig. No licence = no insurance.
       602
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       Re: Who knows more about this ?
       By: Arjan Date: February 27, 2017, 7:00 am
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       These Scottish Aviation trailers have overrun brakes - nothing
       electric in the '60s. Interesting mechanism  but actually quite
       effective in good working order.. Empty the brakes do not a lot
       but they are so light that is not really a problem..  They were
       used for light bulke load transport : airplane parts, furniture,
       etc..
       Please do not shoot me - but under EU legislation this is
       actually very legal with a BE licence : 7500  kg. trainweight..
       Airbrakes make light work of slowing down and they are a delight
       to drive..
       [URL=
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       No idea what will happen when you are on your own...
       
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       Re: Who knows more about this ?
       By: kev Date: February 27, 2017, 8:06 am
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       Racetech use boingies with a fifth wheel to move the starting
       gates around at my local racecourse, and others.
       I'm sure a Goooogle image search will show you one.
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       Re: Who knows more about this ?
       By: Arjan Date: February 27, 2017, 9:31 am
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       Yes - know them.  :thumbs:
       They feature in the magazines from time to time..  However,
       those use a " fifth-wheel coupling" in various sizes. These
       Scottish Aviation ones use a 50 mm ball that is fitted onto a
       "spider" that sits on the load bed sides.
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       Re: Who knows more about this ?
       By: Arjan Date: March 9, 2017, 2:13 am
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       U P D A T E   (In case a lonely soul would be interested...
       :smilewide:)
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       Well... This weekend we're doing a good old fashioned UK Raid.
       [URL=
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       2,900 kms (or 1,860 miles in your money) in 72 hrs. with a
       3-axle trailer to collect the remains of the Scottish Aviation
       Artic Trailer, some airplane seats for the new conference rooms
       and a pair of radar domes to protect the satellite uplinks
       against the elements...
       So if you see a 1.0 (Keswick Green Hard Top) on French plates
       with a big trailer & a rooftent - give us a  wave..
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       Re: Who knows more about this ?
       By: Matthew Date: March 12, 2017, 5:05 pm
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       I saw a Keswick Green Land Rover today.... it pulled into my
       workshop yard, minus a vacuum pump bolt  *help*
       It was a pleasure to meet you and Ivo today Arjan, and to show
       you round our collection of aeroplane bits. I wish Ivo the best
       of luck with restoring his trailer and I cant wait to see some
       photos of the airline seats in your conference room  :smilewide:
       It will be touch and go, but if I can keep the Sea King under
       the required continental height once on its frame, I would love
       to bring it to a show on the continent in the future... I might
       have to buy shares in BP if I decide to bring it behind the
       Series 3 though....
       Fingers crossed that our home-made banjo bolt lasts OK for the
       rest of your trip, so you can get all the way home under full
       power!
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