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       #Post#: 101347--------------------------------------------------
       Steering Woes
       By: D4B Date: May 24, 2016, 1:06 pm
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       Now that my series 3 is back on the road, I am finding that I
       really do have to "fight" with the steering....
       It's extremely heavy, and on tight slow manouvering turns it
       kind of bumps, like you have just run over a rock!
       I have since filled the new steering relay with oil (slight
       oversight on my part  :rolleye0012:) but this hasn't improved
       things much...
       Having never driven another series Land Rover, I don't know what
       it should be like.
       When I was reversing out today, I noticed the front wheels sat a
       bit odd:
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       Could part of it be these mis shaped G90 tyres?
       I do need to disconnect the steering relay and check it has the
       correct amount of resistance...........
       Any thoughts?
       Thanks Steve
       #Post#: 101349--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Steering Woes
       By: Doug_T Date: May 24, 2016, 1:53 pm
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       By "tight, slow maneuvering turns" do you mean the steering
       kicks on full lock? If so then it might be worth checking it
       isn't stuck in 4WD (jack up a front wheel and it should spin
       freely, if it doesn't - provided the brakes aren't binding -
       then your front axle is engaged).
       #Post#: 101350--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Steering Woes
       By: DarrenH Date: May 24, 2016, 5:21 pm
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       my front wheels have a bit of positive camber like that.
       how much oil did you put in the relay?  i found mine very slow
       to consume, like it appeared brimmed but then dropped at snails
       pace
       other thoughts, over adjusted steering box, railco seizing,
       #Post#: 101351--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Steering Woes
       By: D4B Date: May 25, 2016, 12:38 am
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       Thanks for your replies.
       Doug T: Perhaps it is the steering "kicking on full lock" ? I
       will check if it's stuck in 4WD and report back.........
       Darren H: I managed to get almost 2 x Bluemels oil cans full of
       EP90 into it, took ages though.
       Railco Bushes, the swivels housings are something I haven't
       investigated as yet, they are on my to do list though as one
       side the seal is leaking.
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       Re: Steering Woes
       By: DarrenH Date: May 25, 2016, 6:22 am
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       my steering relay took 80ml if it helps
       #Post#: 101355--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Steering Woes
       By: PROPERJOB Date: May 26, 2016, 2:47 pm
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       I would disconnect the drag link off the bottom steering relay
       arm, then remove the top link so you can turn the relay by
       pulling on the bottom are. You should have about 15lb- 20lb of
       pull on the end of the arm before it moves, or require a
       reasonable but not lots of effort to pull it with one hand.
       You mention it is a new relay, is it Britpart? If so mine did
       not have anyway for the oil to get into the relay due to a
       casting defect so it was very tight and quickly seized.
       Have you replaced or touched the swivel hubs? It could be you
       need more shims in the Railko bush, about 8lb of force to turn
       one (without the seal in place).
       I think the camber is a red herring (although it does look odd,
       it could be angle of the picture), the less contact the tyre has
       the easier it should be to turn.
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       Re: Steering Woes
       By: ashcrroft752 Date: May 26, 2016, 4:14 pm
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       Been a while since I've had my chrome swivels off, but would it
       be possible to fit them upside down?
       #Post#: 101357--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Steering Woes
       By: D4B Date: May 27, 2016, 2:23 pm
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       Yes it is a Britpart steering relay, got plenty of oil into it
       so hopefully my oilways are ok.....
       I will disconnect the arms from the relay and use a spring
       balance to see if it's within spec.
       I have just borrowed some nice old Dunlop tracking guages, so
       will be having a play over the weekend, will let you know how I
       get on.
       Cheers Steve
       PS: I haven't touched the swivels or railco bushes as yet.
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       Re: Steering Woes
       By: divie Date: May 29, 2016, 10:18 am
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       Easy enough to disconnect a track rod end and have a tug on the
       swivels. Have you messed with the steering box adjustment ?
       Check also that the steering box and it's bracketry is tightened
       to the chassis they can come loose and course steering wander
       and a bit of a knock.
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       Re: Steering Woes
       By: D4B Date: June 1, 2016, 1:30 am
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       Small update, tracking is now much improved after using the
       Dunlop Guages, but steering still heavy and a little odd at full
       lock......
       Will report back after checking out relay and steering box
       again.
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