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Basic restoration costs
By: CountyDorset Date: January 10, 2016, 5:27 pm
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This is a very general question, but how much would a
restoration cost of an S3 ie for new galvanised chassis and
bulkhead to be fitted?
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Re: Basic restoration costs
By: samc88 Date: January 10, 2016, 5:34 pm
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Spent around £3000 on mine over 3 years using original chassis
and bulkhead. this includes gearbox and engine overhaul by me as
well as purchasing a recon injector pump which is £300 by
itself.
Galv chassis is around £1000 and bulkheads not far off that i
think
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Re: Basic restoration costs
By: CountyDorset Date: January 10, 2016, 6:15 pm
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Thanks for the reply. Was that you doing it yourself?
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Re: Basic restoration costs
By: samc88 Date: January 10, 2016, 6:26 pm
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Yes all done myself. Not sure of the accurate cost but pretty
sure its around that (Not including the rebuild im doing to the
front end now)
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Re: Basic restoration costs
By: Arjan Date: January 11, 2016, 2:58 am
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The old saying is to estimate the costs, double them and then
add another 100 % :smilewide:
Seriously, hard to say. The easy bits are chassis, bulkhead &
engine + gearbox. Then the trouoble starts as what do you do
with things like wiring, brakes, axles, bodyparts, doors,
interior, etc..
And the small bits - fitting clips etc. - add seriously to the
bill.
We did the Hybrid in the '90s and that one costed more than a
new 90 at the time, but ours, 25 years onwards is still rust
free...
Good luck :thumbs:
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Re: Basic restoration costs
By: NoelC Date: January 11, 2016, 6:13 am
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Swapping the chassis for a galvanized one is a pretty quick job
on an 88, I did mine in a long weekend with the assistance of a
bus mechanic mate and is a relatively simple and straightforward
job - however we did have the use of a forklift so the body came
off in one piece and stayed in one piece. I assume this is the
method those who advertise 'we'll supply and fit your 88"
chassis for £2895' use. I've dug out the photos of when we did
the 88:
HTML http://homepage.ntlworld.com/noel.clark/rechassis01.jpghttp://homepage.ntlworld.com/noel.clark/rechassis02.jpg
HTML http://homepage.ntlworld.com/noel.clark/rechassis03.jpghttp://homepage.ntlworld.com/noel.clark/rechassis04.jpg
HTML http://homepage.ntlworld.com/noel.clark/rechassis05.jpghttp://homepage.ntlworld.com/noel.clark/rechassis06.jpg
HTML http://homepage.ntlworld.com/noel.clark/rechassis07.jpghttp://homepage.ntlworld.com/noel.clark/rechassis08.jpg
HTML http://homepage.ntlworld.com/noel.clark/rechassis09.jpghttp://homepage.ntlworld.com/noel.clark/rechassis10.jpg
HTML http://homepage.ntlworld.com/noel.clark/rechassis11.jpghttp://homepage.ntlworld.com/noel.clark/rechassis12.jpg
HTML http://homepage.ntlworld.com/noel.clark/rechassis13.jpghttp://homepage.ntlworld.com/noel.clark/rechassis14.jpg
HTML http://homepage.ntlworld.com/noel.clark/rechassis15.jpghttp://homepage.ntlworld.com/noel.clark/rechassis16.jpg
HTML http://homepage.ntlworld.com/noel.clark/rechassis17.jpghttp://homepage.ntlworld.com/noel.clark/rechassis18.jpg
Costs-wise (bearing in mind this was 2006) I think the total
bill was around £1500, the chassis is a military spec Marslands
that Paddocks were selling for £535+vat back then. The
parabolics were Shitpart and, well, shit, so they've gone now
but the Procomp shocks are still on it. Other bits were an
Automec copper brake pipe kit and more faffing bits I can't
quite remember.
When the bulkhead is included as part of the process it all gets
considerably more time consuming and complicated for obvious
reasons, keeping the body in one lump is a major shortcut.
Paying someone to do this I'd as a guesstimate quadruple the
labour hours (at least) to strip the body into it's component
parts, swap the bulkhead and reassemble over a simple chassis
swap as I did. You'd obviously need new fixings and probably a
new wiring loom, and if you're going that far I suspect
respraying the panels as they are apart would figure into the
process. My mate queried rebuild costs of a 109 station wagon
with Dunsfold a few years back and for a pukka job they were
quoting £15k, I'm sure that has increased since then.
As none of the process is difficult, just time consuming, it's
all quite acheivable to do it yourself. You'd need very deep
pockets to pay someone to do it who will always be watching the
clock and your budget - unless you are clear it's a money no
object job corners will get cut somewhere.
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Re: Basic restoration costs
By: Arjan Date: January 11, 2016, 7:11 am
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Think that is a good thing to mention. A chassis swop is
different from a rebuild. We started with a bare chassis,
repaired what was needed, added mounts for the roll cage and
than had it galvanized and powder coated. Obviously, this is
money but money very well spent. We did the same with the
bulkhead and started the build. This is where it starts to cost
money.
It is, as said, not rocket science but basic mechanical blood
sweat & t..rs.
Have fun :thumbs:
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Re: Basic restoration costs
By: CountyDorset Date: January 11, 2016, 10:56 am
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The original chassis is in quite good fettle. I had it
inspected by a specialist and whilst he did say it was a bit
like Trigger's broom, it was solid enough.
It really needs new doors all round, and then if you do that, it
should be sprayed, but then if you do that the bulkhead should
be replaced as that needs to be resprayed..
And do I want a nice shiny paintjob on a chassis, that will need
replacing one day.
Seeing all these nut and bolt restorations isn't helping.....
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Re: Basic restoration costs
By: Arjan Date: January 11, 2016, 1:30 pm
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The 1st. question is obviously what do you want to do with the
vehicle, long term ?
If you want to keep it, take the body off, do the chassis
properly and - my opinion after having done several used chassis
- galvanize the chassis & bulkhead. Yes, a lot of work, yes, it
will cost a bit but rust will not be your worry. Regardless of
what all the experts say, we have very good results with used
chassis and bulkhead for over 25 years.
Have fun.
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Re: Basic restoration costs
By: hippydave Date: January 11, 2016, 2:49 pm
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Get it structurally and mechanically sound before you start
worrying about getting it painted. When i did mine if it could
be dipped in galve it was and now i know i have a motor that it
wont have to worry about for the next 20 plus years but the
exterior paint is a job for when i feel it needs doing. i have
odd coloured panels but what does that matter.
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