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#Post#: 99402--------------------------------------------------
chassis change
By: jonny Date: October 21, 2015, 5:05 am
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I'm still mulling over the knackered chassis on the 109 but good
body work and the good chassis on the wagon but body needs a
shit load of work and it seem parts i need are quite expensive.
Am thinking of maybe doing a body swap, putting the 109 body
onto the good chassis and eventually getting a galv chassis and
rebuilding the wagon in a real nice way. What are the
differences in chassis..? Does anybody know.? A bit of welding
for outriggers isn't a problem. :-? Really unsure which would
be the best way to go at the moment. Pro's and con's to either
way. I don't really want to just chuck the wagon together only
to have to strip it again to do the good job i want it to be and
at the same time the 109 has lovely straight bodywork and it
would be a shame to use it as a source for spares... This is
plan C so far. Slowly working my way through the alphabet
:rolleye0012:
#Post#: 99404--------------------------------------------------
Re: chassis change
By: DarrenH Date: October 21, 2015, 6:01 am
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this book...
HTML http://www.amazon.co.uk/Land-Rover-Series-III-Reborn/dp/1845843479
... has step by step pictorial guide of converting a 109 hard
top chassis to 109 station wagon spec. just to emphasise how
detailed it is, when it mentions a bracket that needs moving it
has a picture of the bracket with a man pointing his finger to
the bracket ;D ;D its a good read in general actually, not
just for that.
i mean, technically, mechanically, what you are suggesting to do
is fine, its doable. but since you are fishing for opinion i
personally would make good each vehicle on its own. if i had
two and wanted to make 1 good vehicle out of them, then
amalgamate the bad bits at later date, ten years would pass i'd
still have 1 good vehicle and all the other parts sitting round.
plus i dont think i could be bothered with all the identity
malarky
#Post#: 99405--------------------------------------------------
Re: chassis change
By: jonny Date: October 21, 2015, 6:03 am
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Nice one darren :smilewide: I shall work it out from there
:thumbs:
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Re: chassis change
By: jonny Date: October 21, 2015, 6:04 am
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Just realised i bought that at the weekend :rolleye0012:
#Post#: 99407--------------------------------------------------
Re: chassis change
By: DarrenH Date: October 21, 2015, 6:10 am
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just to let you know, i was doing an edit, boss walked in, and i
only just saved it :D
"opinions" added
#Post#: 99408--------------------------------------------------
Re: chassis change
By: jonny Date: October 21, 2015, 6:25 am
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i think there will be a way around the identity :rolleye0012:
Just trying to think of a quick and easy way to get one sorted
for now. Swapping the chassis isn't a problem in itself just
wanted to check there wasn't a huge difference in the chassis.
109 would be going on the station wagon chassis so i guess it
can be worked out by the info in the book. Just don't want to
rush the wagon, want that to be a nice one that will last a long
time, where as the 109 will be the workhorse.
#Post#: 99419--------------------------------------------------
Re: chassis change
By: w3526602 Date: October 21, 2015, 2:04 pm
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Hi,
It is permitted to change the body and keep the registration.
For practical purposes it is not permitted to change the chassis
and keep the registration. It would require an SVA, and be
awarded a Q-plate. Do a Google for REBUILT VEHICLES POINTS. You
must either keep the original chassis, or replace it with a
brand new chassis built to the same specification.
The 11th Commandment applies ... don't get caught.
The simple solution is to fit the best body onto the best
chassis, changing chassis outriggers as required, then use the
V5 and registration plates appropriate for that chassis. You
should advise DVLA of the change of body type, and engine number
(if changed). DVLA occasionally have difficulty changing more
than one item at a time.
You would then do the same with the second best chassis and
body.
Note that there are year appropriate numbers stamped on the
chassis, engine, axles, gearbox, and steering box. An expert can
recognise differences in the age of other parts.
Can you say which Series both vehicles are ... S2, S2A, or S3.
All S2 and S2A are VED exempt, some early S3 are VED exempt. And
some S2 are MOT exempt. My S2 was registered in May 1960, and
has a 1960 series chassis number. But the 1960 series began in
September 1959, and records show that mine was built in December
1959, so exempt from both VED and MOT. Worth considering before
you start to make changes.
602
#Post#: 99421--------------------------------------------------
Re: chassis change
By: jonny Date: October 21, 2015, 3:13 pm
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They are both late series 3. If i just change the body but keep
the rest of it and keep the original number then there should be
no problem. Any change of engine then i can change it on the V5.
Although they are both 2.25 petrol so will only get swapped if
the one with the gas conversion turns out to have an unleaded
head, even then i would probably just swap the head. There
shouldn't be a problem with the identity, it was mainly the
difference in the chassis. From what i can see it is just a few
brackets that are different so shouldn't be a problem
#Post#: 99425--------------------------------------------------
Re: chassis change
By: w3526602 Date: October 22, 2015, 12:27 am
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Hi Johnny,
So you will be finishing up with a truck body on an estate
chassis, using the estate registration and V5. That sounds OK to
me.
Depending on where you live (or travel), think about fitting the
estate roof panel onto the truck, over a pair of glazed side
panels, so that you can continue to call it an estate. That way
it should be charged the car rate at toll booths. (The Severn
Crossing tolls charge ALL Land Rovers at the car rate, and
trailers are free).
There is something in my mind, about 12-seat estates being
exempt from the LEZ, because they are buses. The LEZ only
applies to diesels ... just keep it in mind if you are tempted
to drop a TDi in.
I assume the truck has a rear mounted fuel tank. While you have
the welder out would be a good time to think about fitting
out-riggers for long-range tanks under the seats. Ah ... did
you mention LPG? Can you fit a gas tank in place of the rear
fuel tank, with petrol tank(s) under the seat(s).
602
#Post#: 99426--------------------------------------------------
Re: chassis change
By: jonny Date: October 22, 2015, 3:35 am
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Luckily it has rear side windows :smile1 think i may put the
safari roof onto him, just for the insulation and to stop
condensation. I never go into LEZ zones, i am a country bumpkin
living in bumblefuck, cities scare me :eek: Good point about
the fuel tanks. It has the tank at the back and the lpg in the
rear 'boot' so underneath would be a better place for it. Will
certainly look into that, would be a much better layout
:thumbs: Is it just the military vehicles that had the twin tank
set up.? I take it a swb tank will fit under the drivers seat so
if i'm right it would be a case of finding an ex-army passenger
side.?
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