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Tax exempt
By: bmell Date: October 16, 2015, 1:22 pm
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Hi all, i need some advice on my Landy, the reg docs state in
section 3, special notes the vehicle was registered and/or
used.declared manufactured 1958. rebuilt-assembled from parts
some or all of which were not new. the date of first
registration is 1988, could this vehicle be tax exempt, at the
moment it states taxation class PLG also its not on a 1988 reg
plate, its got a nice three letter and three digit plate, i have
a letter from DVLA to confirm 1958 manufacture, any advice on
this would be a great help, i called in at my local MOT test
garage and they said they would have to test it as a 1988
vehicle .regards BM
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Re: Tax exempt
By: kev Date: October 16, 2015, 1:31 pm
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Welcome to the forum.
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Re: Tax exempt
By: NoelC Date: October 16, 2015, 3:20 pm
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What kev says, welcome along, if you could post an introduction
in the Welcome section that is appreciated by all.
In answer to your question, yes, quite possibly. If your local
MOT test station has seriously said that after being shown the
V5C with year of manufacture as 1958 I'd go somewhere else. Date
of registration is irrelevant for the MOT process. The MOT
testers manual always refers to the term 'first used before'
then a date. It's obvious if something was declared manufactured
1958 that the DVLdickheads have acknowledged then it was used
before 1988.
Once insured and passed apply for a taxation class change to
HISTORIC and see what happens. Can't see why it wouldn't be a
mere formality.
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Re: Tax exempt
By: w3526602 Date: October 17, 2015, 1:37 am
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Hi,
If it was manufactured in 1958, then it is both VED and MOT
exempt.
My 109" was manufactured in 1959, but not registered until May
1960. DVLA say it is their policy to record Year of Manufacture
as being the same as Year of Registration In order to claim MOT
exemption I had to prove she was built in 1959 ... DVLA will not
accept a Heritage Certificate as proof for this. The only
evidence that they would accept seemed impossible to obtain, but
in the event it was VERY easy.
I wandered into my local Post Office with a 1974 V5, insurance,
and a V888. Nice bloke behind the counter tore up the V888, kept
the V5, and gave me a FREE tax disc. Easy Peasy!
Your V5 already shows your truck as pre-1960, so you don't need
to jump through hoops.
I think that you are exempt from needing an MOT, so don't
volunteer to have one. If you want a test for your own peace of
mind, do it after you have the tax disc. I believed that
pre-1960 vehicles could not have a documented MOT, but I have
since read that they need an MOT to donate their number to a
Cherished Transfer.
My mate tried to register his 1982 FC82 (Google), which is a
Series 3 109" forward control with a V8. Because it had never
been put into service, it had to be registered as a 1992. That
complicated his Classic insurance.
I started a discussion on another forum about vehicles that were
radically altered prior to 01/01/1998, and how do you prove they
are Kosher? It all seems to hinge on the Special Note on the V5,
to which you refer. May I copy your opening mail on that forum?
Pretty please?
Is your Series standing on coil suspension by any chance?
602
602
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Re: Tax exempt
By: w3526602 Date: October 17, 2015, 3:53 am
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Hi,
Further to above, The Date of First Registration will be the
date that it was registered at DVLC. It was probably also First
Registered at a local council in 1958. DVLC took over vehicle
records starting, I think, in 1974. Yours should have been in
the system by 1976 at the latest .... unless it was not on the
road. Very little information would have been copied from the
cardboard VE60 onto the V5. It may be that the VE60 had been
lost.
I suggest that it will be worth sending a cheque for £5 to DVLA,
asking for a copy of your vehicles history. You should
(eventually) get microfilm copies of the documents used for the
1988 registration, and everything thereafter. They might include
the original VE60, or a duplicate VE60, or a V25/5.
602
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Re: Tax exempt
By: bmell Date: October 17, 2015, 1:35 pm
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Hi all , many thanks for your help, by all means copy and use
anything i send to the forum, to answer some of the questions
the old girl is on leaf springs and staying that way, i did send
a fiver to DVLA for the vehicle history and did get a copy of
the 1988 registration, also copies of two other owners reg docs
on this vehicle but a lot of copies included were so bad you
can't read any part of them , regards exempt MOT i thought you
were limited to 500 miles a year on this, dont know where i saw
that though,also i will check with another MOT station regarding
the manufacture date and registration date, Regards BM
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Re: Tax exempt
By: w3526602 Date: October 17, 2015, 11:39 pm
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Hi Bmell,
Thanks for consent.
I've never heard of a mileage limit for MOT exemption, even
during the discussion days when there was a lot of resistance.
But then, I didn't read everything. France used to limit
"Collector Cars" to their home Department and adjacent
Departments ... we had a place near St.Malo, which gave us an
area the size of Wales to play in. It was possible to get
permission to travel further for special occasions. I believe
that restriction has been lifted, and "Controle Technique"
re-introduced for Collector Cars, but every five years. UK
insurers have said they will not require engineer's reports for
MOT exempt vehicles.
Up until about a year ago, my MOT tester denied that ANY
vehicles were MOT exempt. It's worth doing a Google before you
start driving round.
602
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