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       #Post#: 96288--------------------------------------------------
       aeroparts hydraulic winch
   DIR By: 64treefrog
       Date: February 19, 2015, 5:15 am
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       Hi, new here, I have a 2a 109 with an Aeroparts hydraulic winch
       running from a bottom pto. The landy is 1971 and I have known it
       for 30yrs, could the winch be original equipment?
       Also I am trying to find out the rated line pull but cant find
       much on the net, can anyone advise please?
       #Post#: 96311--------------------------------------------------
       Re: aeroparts hydraulic winch
   DIR By: Gozo_Joseph
       Date: February 21, 2015, 7:46 am
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       bottom pto  :2mo5pow:  wagfinger next time don't type it out
       here :( .. where is the crying face..
       i guess if you google it or go to more formal series groups and
       forums you will find details.
       well i have a mayflower drum winch and folks over here said i
       can pull churches with it (ours are big and bulk and stone built
       ) so i guess yours has also got a good pull :)
  HTML http://lr-optional-equipment.co.uk/hydraulic-drum-winches#lightbox[145]/0/
       if you feel like saving a bit on fuel costs and wish to shed
       wieght drop me a message ;)
       hat and coat maybe  :smilewide:
       joe
       #Post#: 96319--------------------------------------------------
       Re: aeroparts hydraulic winch
   DIR By: mandylandy
       Date: February 21, 2015, 11:32 am
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       Bottom PTO.
       Whisper it!!!!
       Hen's teeth and Rocking Horse Shit are common by comparison.
       Be very careful,you could cause mass panic or a stampede.
       :smilewide:
       Welcome along BTW.
       #Post#: 96323--------------------------------------------------
       Re: aeroparts hydraulic winch
   DIR By: 64treefrog
       Date: February 21, 2015, 2:10 pm
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       didnt know they were rare, just took it for granted!
       The landy, Mrs bridges, has an Acklift cherrypicker mounted on
       the rear running from pto.
       The winch is currently mounted on the front with bloody enormous
       spade anchors.
       i havnt used it for 6 years as there are insurance problems.
       used to be insured with nfu as crane, this doesnt exist and its
       now 'special vehicle' eg red deisel and mot exempt but....
       you can no longer get road insurance unless the picker has
       current Lolor' cert. it wont pass as to old and also costs too
       much.
       wanted to restore it and show it, she will soon be 50, but no
       one will give me insurance cover. silly as without the picker it
       would be £50/yr.
       reluctantly going to remove it, she will be happy (weighs
       700kg), so have a mad plan to fit winch behinh the cab, rollers
       at rear, hydraulic drop down spades at the rear and a Matador
       style timber lifting jib.
       the chassis has 4" angle welded along to top and 3" c section on
       top of that so it will take the strain.
       #Post#: 96327--------------------------------------------------
       Re: aeroparts hydraulic winch
   DIR By: Gozo_Joseph
       Date: February 21, 2015, 2:49 pm
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       so the cherry picker was operated from the bottom pto as well or
       from another hydraulic pto pump?
       
       this is how my father's should look like - with mk1 winch at
       front. and compressor at the back.
       [URL=
  HTML http://s331.photobucket.com/user/roveritis/media/special%20bumper%20for%20the%20model%20fitted%20with%20winch..jpg.html][IMG]http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l479/roveritis/special%20bumper%20for%20the%20model%20fitted%20with%20winch..jpg[/img][/URL]
       talk of excessive weight  :-? and need for a PAS :D
       joe
       #Post#: 96328--------------------------------------------------
       Re: aeroparts hydraulic winch
   DIR By: 64treefrog
       Date: February 21, 2015, 2:59 pm
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       the bottom pto has a dowty pump on it and the base of the
       cherrypicker is the tank. Theres a valve on the tank that sends
       oil flow to picker or winch. there is a second valve on the
       winch circuit that redirects the floe to quick fit couplings for
       running hydraulic tools (road breaker).
       When i remove the picker i plan to replace the tank with one i
       will make from a compressor air tank and use a military oil
       cooler to keep the hydraulic oil cool.
       #Post#: 96329--------------------------------------------------
       Re: aeroparts hydraulic winch
   DIR By: Gozo_Joseph
       Date: February 21, 2015, 3:05 pm
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       hi. behind the grill of the picture i attached is the cooler of
       the oil of the air compressor.
       so what is in the rear housing of the transfer case?
       there is a brochure on ebay at the moment about the hydraulic
       breakers you talk of.
       pity you have to loose the cherry picker. :(
       joseph
       #Post#: 96346--------------------------------------------------
       Re: aeroparts hydraulic winch
   DIR By: maudie
       Date: February 23, 2015, 3:14 am
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       Chances are if its 71 it won't be an Aeroparts, it will be a mk2
       hydraulic winch built by Hill Lushington. Only the mk1s were
       built by Aeroparts and were replaced by the mk2 c.1967.
       BPTOs are uncommon but they do turn up, just can get expensive.
       I've had 5 come through the business in the last 2 years
       including one for the '1 ton' / FC transfer box which according
       to a few people don't exist. I also have a large quantity of NOS
       spare for the BPTOs direct from the old Aeroparts factory and
       currently in the process of having some castings remanufactured.
       It sounds like an interesting vehicle that probably could do
       with preserving rather than breaking. Could you pm me some pics
       please? The pic of the Air Drive compressor vehicle above is the
       one I owned for a short while but unfortunately was incomplete
       and not worth saving and I decided to sell it. I'm currently
       rebuilding an Air Drive Harrier back hoe digger based on a 1971
       2a 109. That also has twin hydraulic pumps, one on the centre
       PTO and one on the BPTO powering the digger arm and a hydraulic
       breaker mounted on the from bumper. My Series 3 88 just has a
       BPTO powering a hyd winch.
       Rob
       LR Optional Equipment
       #Post#: 96347--------------------------------------------------
       Re: aeroparts hydraulic winch
   DIR By: maudie
       Date: February 23, 2015, 3:17 am
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       As a footnote Aeroparts did manufacture another hydraulic winch
       from 1977, known as the GLR104. The ratings for these winches
       are 4000lb on the 1st lay reducing to 2650lb on the top lay of
       rope for the mk1 mk2 winches and a max 5500lb for the GLR104
       winch
       #Post#: 96348--------------------------------------------------
       Re: aeroparts hydraulic winch
   DIR By: 64treefrog
       Date: February 23, 2015, 3:58 am
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       maudi
       thanks for your reply, just looked up your ebay shop, need to
       keep you in favorite sellers list!
       I have spoken to the second owner (knew the owners back to 77)
       and he confirmed fitting of winch. It is Aeroparts, fitted in
       1980ish, and he is sending me the original bumf. This was when
       the bpto was fitted as it had an overdrive on the rear pto
       outlet. There is a hole cut in the top of the drivers side wing
       where it had a optional equipment hydraulic tank fitted.
       I would dearly love to keep it in one piece but if I cannot
       insure it for road use......
       Also discovered that the cherrypicker wasnt on it from new but
       was fitted in early 80s having been removed from a crashed 109,
       ex london underground tree team. The eon assisters were fitted
       together with extended spring shackles at this time but due to
       the weight it sits hard on these at all times.
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