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       #Post#: 95943--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Improving the two candles up front...
       By: quattrofoto Date: February 3, 2015, 3:40 pm
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       Mine are the cheapo Ring ones. I'm thinking the issue could be
       aim - the vague patch of light was very yellow (Beastie is a
       creamy limestone at the moment) and I'm wondering if that patch
       is just reflected light and the bulk of the light is being
       wasted shooting off at a silly angle. I had assumed because the
       MOT went so smoothly (I said to the guy testing it that I'd
       thought at the very least it would fail on the lamp aim..he said
       "actually it isn't bad at all") that the aim was set pretty much
       ok.
       I'm going to mount the rectangular driving lights up front,
       because they aren't very large and reasonably unobtrusive. The
       round ones I have will go round the back later to provide some
       light for when I have to reverse off road/on a lane, as I don't
       have reverse lights fitted.
       #Post#: 95946--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Improving the two candles up front...
       By: ashcrroft752 Date: February 3, 2015, 9:04 pm
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       Just a thought but shouldn't lamps in the grill set up be using
       old type pattern lamps with BFP bulbs?
       May be a better pattern on the road using old type lenses with
       halogen BFP bulbs? May not get as much shadow from the wings.
       #Post#: 95949--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Improving the two candles up front...
       By: espacekiller Date: February 4, 2015, 4:43 am
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       Thinking about this and I was wondering if it is possible to fit
       rear brake light holders in the position of the front side
       lights but then fit clear lenses? that way you could have the 5w
       on normally but wire the 21w to come on with high beam? You
       would probably need the old lucas metal holders as has been
       mentioned due to the heat.
       Has anybody done this?
       Holding them side by side the single and double bulb holders
       look exactly the same size. :-?
       #Post#: 95950--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Improving the two candles up front...
       By: Snailer Date: February 4, 2015, 6:28 am
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       [quote author=espacekiller link=topic=9044.msg95949#msg95949
       date=1423046626]
       Thinking about this and I was wondering if it is possible to fit
       rear brake light holders in the position of the front side
       lights but then fit clear lenses? that way you could have the 5w
       on normally but wire the 21w to come on with high beam? You
       would probably need the old lucas metal holders as has been
       mentioned due to the heat.
       Has anybody done this?
       Holding them side by side the single and double bulb holders
       look exactly the same size. :-?
       [/quote]
       do you think it will make much difference?
       #Post#: 95951--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Improving the two candles up front...
       By: espacekiller Date: February 4, 2015, 7:55 am
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       No not in a forwards direction anyway, But it might help in a
       sideways direction to fill the shadows left by the wings light
       up the sides of the road and help define the road edges which
       helps a lot in poor visibility  :-? it would be easy to carry
       out a test with bigger bulbs in the existing fitting. :lightblb:
       #Post#: 95959--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Improving the two candles up front...
       By: Doug_T Date: February 4, 2015, 3:21 pm
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       You can buy - if you are feeling flush - 90mm H7 headlight units
       with dip / main beams and sidelines. That's not that much bigger
       than the sidelight bezel (74mm) and I reckon if you fitted a
       similar size indicator lens for balance it would still look
       reasonably "proper".
       FWIW I used the cheap Ring halogens but replaced the bulbs with
       a pair of Halford own (yes, I know) "brighter, whiter" ones,
       which does give a slight improvement. My 109 being late military
       flavour already had halogens wired through some relay gubbins to
       start with.
       #Post#: 95962--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Improving the two candles up front...
       By: quattrofoto Date: February 4, 2015, 6:03 pm
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       For now I've raised the aim slightly and that seems to have
       given a slight improvement. As suspected, it would appear the
       bulk of the light was not hitting the road where needed. I found
       a good guide to aiming them correctly but I don't have a
       suitable spot to carry out the measurements at the moment.
       #Post#: 95964--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Improving the two candles up front...
       By: RMS Date: February 5, 2015, 3:17 am
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       As a quick guide, I adjust mine roughly, on dipped beam and
       stand in front, noting where the cut off hits my trousers,
       oooer!
       Then I walk away about 5-6 paces and check again.
       If it's around 10-12" lower, I'm happy. If not, I tweak it
       again.
       It helps to cover the other headlight - I lean a piece of
       plywood/cardboard against it, but a wheelie bin will do if it's
       handy.
       Cheers,
       Robin.
       #Post#: 95998--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Improving the two candles up front...
       By: NoelC Date: February 5, 2015, 5:53 pm
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       [quote author=espacekiller link=topic=9044.msg95949#msg95949
       date=1423046626]
       Has anybody done this?
       [/quote]
       I've run the ambulance in the US with 21 watt bulbs in the
       sidelights for years. Military lamps (metal holders with glass
       lenses) have been fine. It does give a bit more light, not that
       noticeable but every little helps. Dual wattage sidelights is
       quite common, the old Volvos from the 245 era used to run 21w
       sidelights that dropped to 5w when the dipped beam headlights
       were turned on.
       #Post#: 96003--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Improving the two candles up front...
       By: quattrofoto Date: February 6, 2015, 6:20 am
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       I'm not going to say what is correct and what isn't, but I would
       be careful with swapping bulbs in sidelights. I once had an MOT
       failure for having sidelights that were "too bright, incorrect
       bulbs". Personally I think it's a bit daft but not worth the
       hassle of re tests etc.
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