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       #Post#: 92285--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Warning Coil Sprung Rapists Lurking Iin Shropshire! 
       By: Dave Date: August 27, 2014, 9:46 am
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       [quote author=pete link=topic=8494.msg91861#msg91861
       date=1408040384]
       Tax exempt boingies aren't exactly rare. What  don't
       understand is, how the hell do they get past the  mot?
       pete
       [/quote]
       As Jim said, it's not about the MOT but then the police simply
       aren't interested if you report what is an obviously fraudulent
       motor.
       A couple of years ago, at a show, I spied a 90 with a 1963 reg
       and a tax-exempt disc in the window. I had a good nosey round
       and under it.It was 100% boinger. Chassis, axles, engine,
       gearbox, bodywork, you name it it had no series parts on it
       whatsoever.
       I took pics and contacted the officer of a well-known club who
       is supposed to deal with these matters. He didn't even reply...
       So, another member of this forum contacted the DVLA, who said
       that it wasn't their responsibility. He then contacted his local
       plod and was told that because the motor was not seen on their
       patch they weren't interested. They also asked how he knew it
       was fraudulent.
       Basically, no one in authority actually gives a fuck and now
       they're doing away with tax discs we won't be able to tell which
       ones have a legit "personal reg." and which ones are claiming
       tax-exemption so they'll all get away with it. Though,
       personally, I think having a "personal reg." is the bigger
       crime.  :gay:
       #Post#: 92292--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Warning Coil Sprung Rapists Lurking Iin Shropshire! 
       By: Peter de Dawg Date: August 27, 2014, 1:16 pm
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       I notice that in addition to no tax disc, they're now
       considering doing away with MOT for vehicles 30yrs and over !
       :thumbs:
       #Post#: 92356--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Warning Coil Sprung Rapists Lurking Iin Shropshire! 
       By: Albert Ross Date: August 29, 2014, 1:03 pm
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       Substantially original motors..... engine swaps should be OK
       like a TDI into a 4 pot. 6 pots might not be any bother either.
       Its just mountings at the end of the day.
       #Post#: 92377--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Warning Coil Sprung Rapists Lurking Iin Shropshire! 
       By: NoelC Date: August 30, 2014, 12:33 pm
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       I don't favour MOTs being done away with on vehicles as young as
       30. There are chavs still driving mk3 Escorts of that era and it
       would only encourage more of them to pick an older motor to
       skirt round the MOT.
       #Post#: 92390--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Warning Coil Sprung Rapists Lurking Iin Shropshire! 
       By: ferretjuggler Date: August 30, 2014, 4:20 pm
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       I don't like the idea either.
       IIRC didn't the Germans have a bonkers  plan to turn "Historic
       Vehicle" into a taxation  class where you could only drive on a
       public road on your way to or from a Historic Vehicle Show or
       Rally ?
       Worse still you would be required to have a Police escort (which
       you would have to pay for)
       Fortunately this loony tunes idea got chucked out and never
       become EU law.
       But I regard with deep suspicion anything which seems to move
       older vehicles into a sort of segregated zone away from
       mainstream vehicles used for everyday transport
       #Post#: 92405--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Warning Coil Sprung Rapists Lurking Iin Shropshire! 
       By: Albert Ross Date: August 31, 2014, 10:51 am
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       It's not possible for them to deregulate a currently legal
       vehicle just for taxation purposes.... Yes, if it were
       inherently dangerous (Ford Pinto??) then that's
       understandable... but a precedent has been set. I have been
       using mine 6 years as a daily driver. Nobody can "all of a
       sudden" just tell me it's illegal to use.  Not that I ever see
       any plod on my commute anyway... I tend to travel at shift
       change times!
       #Post#: 92430--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Warning Coil Sprung Rapists Lurking Iin Shropshire! 
       By: NoelC Date: September 1, 2014, 1:17 am
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       There already is provision in the VED laws to restrict use of
       vehicles in the historic class. Take a nice old London Transport
       Routemaster. Historic tax is fine if it's used privately and not
       for hire and reward. Use it as a bus then the taxation class is
       bus and you're relieved of 500 quid. I'd wager the same is true
       of an HGV.
       #Post#: 92438--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Warning Coil Sprung Rapists Lurking Iin Shropshire! 
       By: ferretjuggler Date: September 1, 2014, 5:59 am
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       What I'm concerned about is the nimby PC green tree hugging
       brigade will seize upon the fact that historic vehicles could be
       considered to be unsafe and environment damaging.
       Common sense is out of the window with these people.
       They'll start foaming at the mouth at the mention of excessive
       hydrocarbons,  and heaven forbid that the little luvvies should
       ever realise that older vehicles are being rebuilt and
       maintained by UNQUALIFIED MECHANICS  :eek: :eek: :eek:
       #Post#: 92449--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Warning Coil Sprung Rapists Lurking Iin Shropshire! 
       By: Albert Ross Date: September 1, 2014, 10:38 am
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       I love how the media keeps banging on about Co2 emissions...
       yeah, the stuff that plants like, and in turn, they make
       oxygen..... for us to breathe it etc. So we don't need to cut
       down on driving/breathing etc, we need to plant more trees.
       #Post#: 93046--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Warning Coil Sprung Rapists Lurking Iin Shropshire! 
       By: woollen797 Date: September 23, 2014, 7:45 am
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       Most normal people use their historic motors at weekends only
       but I do think doing away with the MOT totally is a bad idea
       maybe the could make it every other year and start it from the
       tax exemption date
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