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       #Post#: 91224--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smoothrite Substitutes
   DIR By: Sunny Jim
       Date: July 26, 2014, 3:36 pm
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       POR 15 is actually quite good if you use it like they say and it
       is not in direct sunlight (as it goes white!).
       A small tin does go a long way but it also doesn't keep once
       opened so you can buy a multipack of small tins.
       I did all my fixtures with it on my rebuild including the axles
       - these were just gone over with an angle grinder with a soft
       disk then a wire brush, followed by the Metal Prep and Ready
       stuff. I gave them three coats of POR15 black and they still
       look OK seven years later. I don't think Hammerite would have
       achieved that?
       I have also used Bilt and Hamber Hydrate 80 followed by their
       epoxy mastic paint on a carriage underframe. The paint is very
       thick so you need to buy some xylene or two pack paint thinner
       to use it. It does make for a very hard finish, though it is
       also expensive (especially for a carriage, even only a 31' six
       wheeler!). I did find the solvent quite an experience stuck
       under the underframe - quite intoxicating without the
       'sweetness' of cellulose paint!
       Sunny Jim
       #Post#: 91226--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smoothrite Substitutes
   DIR By: guest13
       Date: July 26, 2014, 4:23 pm
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       No
       --- Quote from: ferretjuggler link ---
       >
       > IIRC you don't get a very big tin of POR15 for your 15
       smackers.
       >
       > Yes if I was starting with a shot blasted chassis and bulkhead
       all ready for paint.
       > Then it would be worth laying down some cash on serious
       protection.
       >
       > But as it is I'm painting over old primer in places where I
       can't get in with my linishing disc.
       > Yes I know that isn't brilliant but it's much better than
       flaking old paint with rust under it
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Nope, you don't the £15 was for the frosts chassis paint, not
       POR 15
       #Post#: 91230--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smoothrite Substitutes
   DIR By: espacekiller
       Date: July 26, 2014, 6:30 pm
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       I have been using a chassis black from manor paints which is
       pretty good, nice finish, better than the new hammerite. Looks a
       bit pricey here as I got mine from the trade shop in Shipley at
       about £10 per litre tin, if you search you may find a dealer
       near you?
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       #Post#: 91232--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smoothrite Substitutes
   DIR By: samc88
       Date: July 27, 2014, 12:57 am
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       Been using wilkos black gloss for ages (the cheaper one). Goes
       on very well and gives a decent finish, nothings started rusting
       yet and I live in a seaside town with a salty atmosphere
       #Post#: 91237--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smoothrite Substitutes
   DIR By: ferretjuggler
       Date: July 27, 2014, 7:01 am
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       --- Quote from: samc88 link ---
       >
       > Been using wilkos black gloss for ages (the cheaper one). Goes
       on very well and gives a decent finish, nothings started rusting
       yet and I live in a seaside town with a salty atmosphere
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Sounds interesting.
       And cheap.
       You using a primer/undercoat or just brushing straight to metal?
       #Post#: 91238--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smoothrite Substitutes
   DIR By: samc88
       Date: July 27, 2014, 7:09 am
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       Paint on top of red oxide normally
       #Post#: 91248--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smoothrite Substitutes
   DIR By: a twig
       Date: July 27, 2014, 2:44 pm
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       A slightly more helpful reply on rustoleum - I used it on an old
       big gay boingy I had for a while - painted anything that looked
       rusty with it (chassis, snorkel parts, spare wheel carrier etc).
       Only prep was some wire brushing to get rid of the bubbly rust,
       then slapped it straight on. Only had it for a couple of years
       after that, but no rust came through and still looked good.
       Would recommend some cheapo disposable plastic gloves and old
       clothes though as it don't half stick to skin/anything else...
       blurb below:
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       > Rustoleum Combi Colour Paint
       >
       > One coat maintenance system for metal
       > Can be applied direct to rust and stops rust
       >
       > Long lasting protection
       > For interior and exterior use
       > Sag resitant, no brush strokes
       > White spirit dilutable
       > Low odour
       > Applicable from 5 Degrees Celsius
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       About £16 a tin from most places
       #Post#: 91257--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smoothrite Substitutes
   DIR By: ferretjuggler
       Date: July 27, 2014, 4:41 pm
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       Cheers
       I'll be chasing that up online, local suppliers seem quite
       expensive.
       I've got three more outriggers and the rear X member to replace
       in the next week or so.
       Rustolium would appear to fit the bill.
       Might go for the Wilko option for some of the small bits like
       pedal boxes and the air cleaner.
       More of a cosmetic job than corrosion protection
       Just finished replacing the OS footwell today
       Ended up daubing it in cheapo zinc oxide primer,  didn't really
       want to but it looks like rain soon.
       #Post#: 91274--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smoothrite Substitutes
   DIR By: stevemac78
       Date: July 28, 2014, 4:49 am
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       +1 for rustoleum! Its great stuff. I get mine from homebase!
       Steve
       #Post#: 91276--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smoothrite Substitutes
   DIR By: ferretjuggler
       Date: July 28, 2014, 5:18 am
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       Just found a 750ml tin of Combi Colour on eBay for a stonking
       £25 plus £6 postage.
       What a robbing cunt! :finger:
       Too busy to search further now.
       Hopefully I'll have better luck later on.
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