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Individual Vehicle History - is there a register?
By: Sprocket Date: July 22, 2014, 7:51 am
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I've had my Landy 88" (Mk11 front end with headlights inboard,
but with Mk3 instrumentation..) for about 18 months and I'd love
to know something of it's history. Is there anyone I can contact
who might be able to help me with this? I'm curious because
although it's painted in a lovely matt green 'Nato' paint, deep
within the engine bay there's the odd patch of pale blue, which
along with a double-height front bumper suggests (according to a
guy I met at a Steam Fair) that it might have once belonged to
the RAF. It's registered as a 1972 model. The bodywork rides
quite high (so I have to let the tyres down to get it in the
garage, even though according to the vehicle specs it should
have just fitted in, the springs aren't paras and the tyres are
15"x 205), so I'm also wondering if, as it might be an ex-RAF,
it might have had stronger springs and therefore ride higher
when unloaded..? Be kind to me - this is my first ever forum
post...
Any help gratefully received!
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Re: Individual Vehicle History - is there a register?
By: kev Date: July 22, 2014, 9:19 am
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Welcome to OLLR, young Sprocket.
As for tracing your vehicle's history, I'd start with Gaydon,
give them a ring, they're very helpful.
HTML http://www.heritage-motor-centre.co.uk/archive-services/
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Re: Individual Vehicle History - is there a register?
By: pete Date: July 22, 2014, 2:41 pm
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From the description I think that what you have is probably a
series three with a series two grill and lights.
I have seen quite a few series two a's with retro fit lights
and grill, but never known a series two or two a
retro fitted with a series three dash. 1972 would make it an
early three, or a two a that got lost in transit somewhere,
Either way the inboard lights are wrong. My two a has a
retrofit mill bumper, doesn't make it ex mill though.
Perhaps a few pics would be helpful?
pete
#Post#: 91100--------------------------------------------------
Re: Individual Vehicle History - is there a register?
By: wavey Date: July 22, 2014, 2:54 pm
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Could be a HD 3/4 ton military chassis. They tend to ride higher
Pics of the underneath, spring hangers, cross member etc would
help.
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Re: Individual Vehicle History - is there a register?
By: Sprocket Date: July 23, 2014, 12:35 pm
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Thanks for all your help gents; I've uploaded just a few photos
of my 88 and hopefully they'll appear here:
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[URL=
HTML http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/SprocketLandy/media/InsideForum_zpsa385bb7f.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah119/SprocketLandy/InsideForum_zpsa385bb7f.jpg[/img][/URL]
[URL=
HTML http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/SprocketLandy/media/EnginBayForum_zps2419ae2a.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah119/SprocketLandy/EnginBayForum_zps2419ae2a.jpg[/img][/URL]
[URL=
HTML http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/SprocketLandy/media/FrontForum_zps0c374fef.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah119/SprocketLandy/FrontForum_zps0c374fef.jpg[/img][/URL]
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HTML http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/SprocketLandy/media/RearForum_zps05aad3f5.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah119/SprocketLandy/RearForum_zps05aad3f5.jpg[/img][/URL]
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Re: Individual Vehicle History - is there a register?
By: NoelC Date: July 24, 2014, 2:43 am
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I'd go with Pete, it looks to me like you've got a series 3 88
that a PO has slapped an earlier 2a front end on. There is no
trace of anything military on it that I can see. What is the
date of first registration (on the V5C)? If it was military that
date would be much later than 1971/2, it would be the date sold
to the first civvy owner that registered it. For example, first
regsitered 02/07/88 declared manufactured 1972 or something like
that. Civvy 88s were used by the forces but when lightweight
production entered full swing that became the standard for 88s,
understandably.
My guess is the date of registration was some time in 1971/2 so
therefore you are able to trace the history through the DVLA.
For £5 they'll send you copies of every piece of paper they have
relating to the vehicle. It takes about a month, sometimes
longer, but is well worth it.
HTML https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/v888-request-by-an-individual-for-information-about-a-vehicle
HTML https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/v888-request-by-an-individual-for-information-about-a-vehicle
As a by-the-by The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989 (as
amended) stipulates any vehicle first used after 1st January
1972 cannot have headlights positioned more than 400mm from the
edges of the vehicle. If yours is 1972 or later technically that
front end isn't legal, although you'd be hard pushed to find
anyone in authority who would actually know that.
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Re: Individual Vehicle History - is there a register?
By: pete Date: July 24, 2014, 7:37 am
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Having taken a good look at your pics "nice motor", I have to
concur with everything that Noel has to say.
everything except the grill screams series three. An ex mil old
enough to have that front end
would almost certainly have twin under seat tanks as well.
One small caveat. There are testers who would spot the light
spacing.
pete
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Re: Individual Vehicle History - is there a register?
By: Sprocket Date: July 25, 2014, 4:28 pm
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Thanks Noel, Pete, Well, I just checked the registration
document - first registered 19/1/1972 so theoretically I could
be in trouble - I certainly wasn't aware of that particular
regulation - it's be a real shame to have to change the
headlight arrangement, as I really like the look. So I'll tyr
not to lose sleep over it and find a sympathetic testing
station...
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Re: Individual Vehicle History - is there a register?
By: NoelC Date: July 26, 2014, 3:01 am
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If first registered on 19th Jan 1972 it's certainly conceivable
it was built before the cut off. A dating letter from Gaydon
would confirm that.
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Re: Individual Vehicle History - is there a register?
By: Doug_T Date: July 26, 2014, 3:24 am
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Nice truck.
It seems to have the front axle from a lightweight (flat ended)
and a recon military engine (painted rocker cover in that
greenish blue). I *think* as well that the orange oil filler cap
came in later on in SIII production, but not too sure.
Steering wheel looks like the earlier SIII ones as well - the
later ones look deeper.
Like you say; not worth loosing sleep over, more something to be
enjoyed.
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