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       #Post#: 90970--------------------------------------------------
       Gearbox Mounts
   DIR By: Lieff Spring
       Date: July 18, 2014, 4:43 pm
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       I have got a problem with my Series 3 88 in that when pulling
       away from standstill in first/second  and reverse it is very
       difficult to do this smoothly without the vehicle shuddering.
       The problem is not as severe when in 4WD. All changes smooth
       once I have got the old girl rolling. I have checked the
       propshaft UJ's and they are OK. I think the problem is the
       gearbox mounts as there seems to be quite a bit of movement in
       the gearbox when levered with a pry bar.
       My question is can I replace the mounts without removing the
       gearbox? I was planning on removing the bolts and jacking up the
       gearbox and fitting the replacements. I am guessing I will have
       to remove the floor but just wondered if this was possible.
       Thanks in advance.
       #Post#: 90972--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gearbox Mounts
   DIR By: guest13
       Date: July 18, 2014, 4:48 pm
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       Yes it is, you'll need to remove the gearbox brackets that bolt
       to the chassis as well to fi them, I think
       #Post#: 90973--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gearbox Mounts
   DIR By: gilbo
       Date: July 18, 2014, 5:00 pm
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       Yep, it's do-able. No need to remove the floor but it is a bit
       fiddly and you will need the jack things carefully so as to not
       strain the engine mounts as you tip things up!
       HTH
       #Post#: 90976--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gearbox Mounts
   DIR By: divie
       Date: July 19, 2014, 2:59 am
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       If you can afford them get genuine mounts, I used cheap pattern
       engine mounts and they didn't last long. Is there any oil from
       the bell housing when you remove the wading plug ? rear main
       seal or gearbox input shaft seal letting oil contaminate the
       clutch is another possibility for shudder. If when the mounts
       are changed you still get shudder and no serious amount of oil
       is present it may be the anti shudder springs in the clutch
       friction plate are loose. Engine or gearbox out to change the
       clutch, your choice but always a good time to give everything a
       good clean ! I turned a mandrel to line the clutch plate up, you
       are welcome to  it health reasons prevent me from playing with
       Landies now.
       #Post#: 90979--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gearbox Mounts
   DIR By: Lieff Spring
       Date: July 19, 2014, 4:26 am
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       Thanks for all the good advice and so quickly too.
       I have already bought the mounts (Allmakes) so hopefully they
       will be OK. I had thought about oil on the clutch Divie but not
       the springs on the clutch plate. I don't have a wading plug
       (havn't done any wading yet either!) but there doesn't seem to
       be any oil coming out of the hole. Thanks for the offer of the
       mandrel but I have a clutch aligning tool with 3 different sizes
       which I bought about 30 years ago which hopefully should fit if
       a clutch change is necessary.
       Hope the mounts come out easier than the suspension bushes I
       replaced last month. That has got to be the worst job ever on a
       Landy.
       Thanks again.
       #Post#: 90989--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gearbox Mounts
   DIR By: smackitwithanammer
       Date: July 19, 2014, 6:49 am
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       I thought I'd ordered gearbox mounts, but on removal I noticed
       the ones already on there were much smaller, and the new were
       engine sized ones.
       Should last longer, but driver's side will need a bit shaving
       off to get the rubber onto the metal mount, plus a bit more so
       you can twist it to align the holes with the chassis mounts. I
       used a 4 foot crow bar!
       #Post#: 90991--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gearbox Mounts
   DIR By: divie
       Date: July 19, 2014, 7:44 am
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       Not sure if it applies to gearbox mounts but diesel engine
       mounts are different to petrol ones. Some of the cheap sets
       around claim to fit engine and gearbox but I have never tried
       them.
       #Post#: 90992--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gearbox Mounts
   DIR By: stevemac78
       Date: July 19, 2014, 7:49 am
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       Be careful when jacking your engine/gearbox up not to bend the
       bulkhead!!! Ask me how I know!  :rolleye0012:
       #Post#: 91001--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gearbox Mounts
   DIR By: nickjaxe
       Date: July 19, 2014, 2:19 pm
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       I would more suspect oil on the clutch plate...quite common,
       A temp fix to check is to chock the wheels handbrake off so not
       to strain it....with nothing in front if it jumps the chocks...
       Select 4th gear engine running and try to drive away....the aim
       is to have the cluch slipping heard for about 30secs with out
       stalling but putting the engine under load so its slowing down,
       This will burn and surface oil off then remove chokes and see if
       the judder has gone.
       Nick.
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