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       #Post#: 90177--------------------------------------------------
       poor brakes
   DIR By: magnetman
       Date: July 1, 2014, 7:31 am
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       Hi Guys, I have 1973 series 3 SWB safari, totally original, I
       have re-done the brakes with new slaves, pipes and stainless
       hoses, and while it passes MOT`s fine, the brakes do not inspire
       confidence!
       it still has the 10" drums and single leading shoe system, no
       servo, and frankly I want to keep it as original as possible.
       the brake shoes are as per when I purchased it, and they show no
       signs of wear, but I do not know the make, I was wondering if it
       may be good to go for a known good make, possibly a softer
       lining?
       all suggestions gratefully received
       #Post#: 90178--------------------------------------------------
       Re: poor brakes
   DIR By: StuartN
       Date: July 1, 2014, 7:41 am
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       Without seeing the shoess it is hard to say, but for what they
       cost I would definitely consider changing them.
       Other than that just the usual. Check the adjusters are working
       correctly and not overly worn, check the drums are ok (although
       you probably did all this when you did all the work). There is
       no shame in opting for the late S3 twin leading shoe servo set
       up!
       Better to have a Landy that doesn't go but stops than one that
       goes but doesn't stop....
       S
       #Post#: 90180--------------------------------------------------
       Re: poor brakes
   DIR By: magnetman
       Date: July 1, 2014, 8:08 am
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       Thanks stuart, adjusters are OK (fixed standard rather than new
       which I refused to fit due to crap quality)
       drums are original but fine (vehicle only 49k from new)
       do you recommend a good soft shoe?
       mileage done each year is low, so wear rate not an issue.
       thanks
       #Post#: 90183--------------------------------------------------
       Re: poor brakes
   DIR By: StuartN
       Date: July 1, 2014, 8:39 am
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       I have Mintex lined ones that I got from Paddocks and they are
       certainly doing the job for me.
       S
       #Post#: 90185--------------------------------------------------
       Re: poor brakes
   DIR By: divie
       Date: July 1, 2014, 8:46 am
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       ^^^^ What he says "Mintex" every time. People buy and fit these
       £80 kits that do all wheels etc. and are just throwing time and
       money away. My series three with 11" brakes would stop
       frighteningly well, unless it had been submerged in water then
       it was crap.
       #Post#: 90187--------------------------------------------------
       Re: poor brakes
   DIR By: megatoad
       Date: July 1, 2014, 9:02 am
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       I would agree, make sure your adjustors are set correctly, I
       have just replaced all the shoes on the 80" with new ones and
       the stopping is much better (the last ones were worn down by
       mud) but you definaly need to strengthen the muscles in your
       right leg if you still drive more modern vehicles daily like me.
       While the TLS brakes are slightly better than the 10" they are
       not that brilliant, especially in reverse as most of us
       triallers will attest to!!
       #Post#: 90189--------------------------------------------------
       Re: poor brakes
   DIR By: Doug_T
       Date: July 1, 2014, 9:38 am
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       +1 for Mintex
       #Post#: 90194--------------------------------------------------
       Re: poor brakes
   DIR By: magnetman
       Date: July 1, 2014, 9:53 am
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       Thanks Guys!
       Mintex it is...
       #Post#: 90201--------------------------------------------------
       Re: poor brakes
   DIR By: Serious Series
       Date: July 1, 2014, 11:47 am
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       I have been having a nightmare with Mintex shoes for last eight
       weeks wheels and drums have been off so many times.
       Shoes are breaking up in centres especially on leading shoe have
       sent complete set back to supplier and currently have my old
       originals on front and a replacement set of Mintex on rear which
       have also lost surface in centre on trailing shoes.
       Have now bought a set of TRW shoes but waiting to see if the
       Mintex eventually bed in.
       #Post#: 90221--------------------------------------------------
       Re: poor brakes
   DIR By: mojave Rat Fink
       Date: July 1, 2014, 4:12 pm
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       I replaced everything in my 64 a few years back, and I have
       never been satisfied with the performance. My last excursion, I
       found myself on a steep rocky grade with my wife hanging on with
       white knuckles...... We both decided it’s time to upgrade to the
       Torrel disc brake conversion. I think it will be money well
       spent.
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