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My possible "severe lack of garage" solution
By: quattrofoto Date: July 1, 2014, 4:54 am
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Hi all,
In our old place I had a half decent (as in Barratts built so no
good for actual car parking) garage and a nice long drive. Our
new place is very different in that there is no garage at all
just a good lump of concrete up against a nice high wall. Now
the plan has always been to store my gear down the cellar (it's
a very small cellar unfortunately) until I can sort something
more permanent out.
I have had the idea of building a car port, with one end
enclosed to form a secure workshop of sorts. I want to make the
car port structure out of lightweight but strong materials so I
was thinking of using steel for the frame instead of the more
usual timber. I have seen this done and it looks quite smart -
2" box for the uprights and usually 1" box for the horizontals.
This sort of construction can simply be bolted together and
fixed down with those rawl type bolts. As we rent this is an
ideal solution, as if we ever move again we can dismantle and
remove without causing any lasting damage to the property. For
the roof I am thinking that clear plastic corrugated sheeting.
Which brings me to my question. I happened to be in that well
known DIY superstore the other day and took the time to check on
pricing of said plastic sheeting. Now bearing in mind I'm going
to be needing sheets around 8'x4' or similar, they were peddling
sheets about 6' x 1' or similar for £50 each! :eek:
After I got over the initial shock, I began wondering where to
look for a supplier of such material. Does anyone know of a good
place, near to Manchester (Middleton if possible) who aren't
taking the piss when it comes to prices? I have a good steel
supplier but I could also do with somewhere that does 8' x 4'
boarding too so I can do the enclosed section too without having
to sell my family into prostitution just to afford the high
street rip off merchant's prices.
#Post#: 90174--------------------------------------------------
Re: My possible "severe lack of garage" solution
By: RMS Date: July 1, 2014, 6:43 am
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I've just replaced the corrugated plastic roofing on our carport
with profile roofing skylight panels.
These are fibreglass rather than polycarbonate - I hope to get
more life than I got out of the polycarbonate stuff as that
started going brittle after 10 years or so!
I was lucky and got some left over sheets on ebay - 10 x 20'
long sheets and a couple of shorter ones for about £140
:smilewide:
Worth looking for on ebay - much longer lifespan and if you're
thinking of dismantling in the future, should come apart without
cracking all over the place.
Cheers,
Robin.
#Post#: 90176--------------------------------------------------
Re: My possible "severe lack of garage" solution
By: johnpirate Date: July 1, 2014, 7:05 am
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For steel Dunkerleys at Shaw Rd Oldham are pretty good.For
plastic corrugated sheets try Atlas Trading Oldham Rd Ashton
Under Lyne.Although sometimes you might get second hand
aluminium ones from Si-tec Oldham or Connell group Mossdown Road
Royton.Connells can sometimes be a bit dear though and all way
worth checking the stuff out.Si-tec also do secondhand plywood
sheets.
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Re: My possible "severe lack of garage" solution
By: quattrofoto Date: July 1, 2014, 7:47 am
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Thanks for the input guys - it is a real help. I've already got
a provisional 'design' in my head, just got a few niggles to
sort out and the materials to figure out before I can finalise
and put some sort of sketch down on paper. I shall be checking
all those ideas out when I get a moment.
It is always worth asking folk. I'd probably be stuck with the
high street option only otherwise.
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Re: My possible "severe lack of garage" solution
By: puddlejumper Date: July 1, 2014, 10:56 am
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Do you need the dreaded planning permission to do this ??
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Re: My possible "severe lack of garage" solution
By: Peter de Dawg Date: July 1, 2014, 1:21 pm
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[quote author=puddlejumper link=topic=8314.msg90196#msg90196
date=1404230213]
Do you need the dreaded planning permission to do this ??
[/quote]
Just don't fuckin' tell 'em !
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Re: My possible "severe lack of garage" solution
By: Andyjb Date: July 1, 2014, 1:45 pm
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Just a thought Try your local freecycle or freebie group On the
chorley one the other week they were giving that plastic
corrugated stuff away Not sure of size though
#Post#: 90230--------------------------------------------------
Re: My possible "severe lack of garage" solution
By: quattrofoto Date: July 2, 2014, 2:49 am
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For at least the 'first phase' of what I have planned I don't
need any permissions. I was thinking to take things further and
enclose the open side but then it gets a bit less certain so for
now I will stick with the 'no planning needed' bit.
I've all but given up on Freecycle. Nice idea, unfortunately
ruined because they let morons and window lickers on there. I
have replied to dozens and dozens of 'ads', sometimes they've
been a day or two old, some of them were seconds old. I haven't
had any response from any of them. I've been nice, I haven't
been pushy or anything. I just seem to be responding to ads
placed by folk who aren't interested in common courtesies, even
if its just a 'sorry, already gone' thing. The one time I put
something up I had five responses and I answered all five. It
wasn't that difficult.
Anyway, did some measuring up last night. The wall is not as
tall as I first thought, at only 2200mm. The width available is
exactly 3000mm and the length will be around 6600mm. That is not
a bad space at all, considering you couldn't get a mini in the
garage at the old place. Well you could, but then you'd have to
spend the night in it :2mo5pow:
The idea will be to create a lightweight, low impact steel
framework, with a transparent roof. The far end will be fully
enclosed to create a shed of around 3 x 3 mtrs which will give
enough room to put my tackle in, house the bench and give me
secure and dry storage with power and lighting. The rest will be
under cover and shielded from the worst of the weather.
Considering the 109 beastie was built entirely outside in all
weathers (quite literally. Remember the last lot of deep snow we
had? I was out at 1.00 am unseizing engines..) this will be a
massive improvement. I can always drop a tarp down the side if I
need to from time to time.
#Post#: 90231--------------------------------------------------
Re: My possible "severe lack of garage" solution
By: espacekiller Date: July 2, 2014, 3:27 am
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A lad down the road from me did one last year, couple of things,
make sure it is taller than you think it needs to be for
removing fitting roofs, roof racks, engine crane etc. Sort the
fall of the base so water runs off and drainage so it drains
away, you don't want to be laying in a puddle. Have you
considered including a pit in the base, big job!
Try contacting a metal cladding company, the wharehouse type
stuff, I saw a contractor finishing a big job a couple of weeks
back and they had a load of clear roof sections spare.
#Post#: 90233--------------------------------------------------
Re: My possible "severe lack of garage" solution
By: quattrofoto Date: July 2, 2014, 4:03 am
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The base is already there. I will be sloping the roof, and
fitting a gutter which will feed into the existing gutter for
the end of the house, which then obviously feeds into a drain.
Rough calculations would suggest that this will be able to cope
with most situations.
The 109 is already parked where this is all going to be so I've
already noticed I'll need a bit more height than the wall
offers. I have figured a work around for that too. I just need
to quantify the materials now..
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