URI:
   DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Old Leafsprung Land Rovers
  HTML https://ollr.createaforum.com
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       *****************************************************
   DIR Return to: Technical tips & Questions
       *****************************************************
       #Post#: 89553--------------------------------------------------
       Electrical issues (might have fuct up)
   DIR By: Violet Vivid
       Date: June 16, 2014, 5:17 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Well Aryette (my '83 Series 3 88")  now has some brakes
       However we (my Dad & me) had to arc weld one of the adjusters to
       stop it spinning.
       Naturally we completely disconnected the battery (both
       terminals)
       Problem is now when I put the brakes on the sidelights come on.
       And when I turn the sidelights on the brakelights come on as
       well. Also when I touch the brakes with the sidelights on the
       charge light comes on (even if the keys aren't in the ignition).
       :/
       Going to have a look tomorrow to see what, but any obvious
       things to check first? Am guessing a short, but where to aim
       first?
       (All the electrics were working before, I checked them)
       :/
       xXx
       #Post#: 89555--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Electrical issues (might have fuct up)
   DIR By: NiteMare
       Date: June 16, 2014, 5:26 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       "usually" it's a poor earth that produces these results, might i
       suggest turning on your sidelights and then holding the
       footbrake on...
       this often gives you the reverse effect of turning your lights
       off or alternatively dimming them
       hope this helps
       #Post#: 89556--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Electrical issues (might have fuct up)
   DIR By: guest13
       Date: June 16, 2014, 5:43 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       As above, sounds like an earth fault. Probably one of the main
       connections.
       You can test be creating a temporary earth body to battery earth
       with a jump lead
       #Post#: 89558--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Electrical issues (might have fuct up)
   DIR By: Wooden
       Date: June 16, 2014, 6:03 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       +1 on the earth issue; have experienced precisely this myself
       (albeit on something unmentionably sprung).
       Good fix with the arc welder though  :thumbs:.  Get some
       up-to-date pics of Aryette in Memberz Motorz PDQ.
       #Post#: 89562--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Electrical issues (might have fuct up)
   DIR By: divie
       Date: June 17, 2014, 1:46 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       What they say re poor earths, sometimes just removing the bulbs
       and cleaning them works. You say it is a series three, clean the
       4 fuses on the  steering column  I have had strange charge
       light/indicator light glowing issues cured by cleaning the
       fuses.
       #Post#: 89564--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Electrical issues (might have fuct up)
   DIR By: Andyjb
       Date: June 17, 2014, 4:08 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Same as others regarding poor earth Make sure all bulb holders
       are screwed in tight I have had it were a screw just needed a
       further half turn to connect to earth
       #Post#: 89572--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Electrical issues (might have fuct up)
   DIR By: NoelC
       Date: June 17, 2014, 7:50 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       +another on poor earth. The easiest way to prove it is run a
       wire from the negative terminal on the battery to a negative
       wire from the rear lights and see if that cures it. BTW for
       future reference I'd suggest disconnecting the battery and
       pulling the plug out of the back of the alternator before
       welding. It's unlikely, but you may have cooked something in the
       alternator.
       #Post#: 89587--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Electrical issues (might have fuct up)
   DIR By: logrover
       Date: June 17, 2014, 9:22 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       if its not an earth fault, then check the bulbs themselves as i
       once had strange brake light/sidelight issue and it turned out
       to be a dodgy tail-light bulb that had shorted out internally,
       so replacing the bulb cured the problem.
       #Post#: 89597--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Electrical issues (might have fuct up)
   DIR By: Violet Vivid
       Date: June 17, 2014, 1:35 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       This makes NO sense, been looking at it tonight, got the dash
       stripped out because I noticed something.
       It's not just teh charge light that comes on, its the entire
       ignition (found this out by pressing the brake pedal while had
       the indicator down)
       This only happens when teh brown wire on the back of the lights
       switch is connected, disconnect that & it doesn't happen.
       Seriously confused now though, and cannot find the haynes book
       of lies for teh diesel S3 to check teh wiring diagram  *help*
       And cannot see where the brown wire vanishes to as it goes into
       the wrapped bundle under the dash.
       *help*
       xx
       #Post#: 89601--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Electrical issues (might have fuct up)
   DIR By: ZebraDriver
       Date: June 17, 2014, 3:17 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Remove the tail light bulbs and see if this cures it.  Its
       possible that a faulty bulb, or the wrong bulb (A single
       filament bulb) could cause this.  If you connect the brake light
       and tail light wires together (by bridging the two pins in the
       bulb holder with the single contact on the back of a single
       filament bulb) then the tail light circuit can feed all the
       stuff that should be ignition controlled and vice versa.  You
       may have had this problem before your welding episode, but just
       have never noticed it.  If its not the bulb then it could still
       be a fault in the tail light wiring causing the same thing.
       I had this on a motorbike years ago.  The previous owner had
       fitted the wrong bulb into the tail light.  Every time I pressed
       the brake the headlight came on.  Somewhat dangerous at
       junctions as people think you are flashing them to come out!!!
       ZD
       *****************************************************
       Page 1 of 2
   DIR Next Page