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       #Post#: 88172--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What is a Rare Landrover leafer ?
   DIR By: Wooden
       Date: May 12, 2014, 4:44 pm
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       Actually, it is a kwality agri-leafer (a new word there) of the
       highest order; and, personally, I'd value it over almost all of
       the vehicles in Parksy's list - but only 'cos I'm a fan of
       agricultural stuff so it ticks a lot of boxes. I guess it's not
       the sort of vehicle that you can properly 'use' these days
       (although it would look great on a laning video..!). But it is
       proper rare.
       #Post#: 88180--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What is a Rare Landrover leafer ?
   DIR By: Arjan
       Date: May 13, 2014, 2:25 am
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       Rare is a very much abused term and up to the individual to use.
       I just enjoy my '62 Hybrid.
       And some don't even think it is is that..  :smilewide:
       #Post#: 88210--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What is a Rare Landrover leafer ?
   DIR By: ProDave
       Date: May 13, 2014, 2:25 pm
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       What's rare about a "proper 109 1 ton"?
       My first Landrover was that.  Ex military 2A 109" described as a
       "1 ton"
       All I know is the springs were too dam hard for normal use
       without a load in it.
       #Post#: 88212--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What is a Rare Landrover leafer ?
   DIR By: parksy64
       Date: May 13, 2014, 3:16 pm
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       A proper 1 ton is the civi factory made 1 ton; civi rear cross
       member ENV axles or Salisbury.
       Heavy duty chassis with extended shackles etc but with 6 pot
       engine mounts.
       Came standard with wide wheels and 900 tyres.
       So a bit different from the military spec :thumbs:
       #Post#: 88213--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What is a Rare Landrover leafer ?
   DIR By: Wooden
       Date: May 13, 2014, 3:45 pm
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       ^^^and a low ratio 'box as standard coupled (in all but a couple
       of noteable exceptions) to the 2.6 six-cylinder engine; giving
       an effective top speed of about 45mph but superb pulling power.
       Here's a photo of Udo's (I hope he doesn't mind me posting)
       >rock< >rock<
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       Contrary to popular opinion, they are  8) as fuck. FACT!
       #Post#: 88217--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What is a Rare Landrover leafer ?
   DIR By: Doug_T
       Date: May 13, 2014, 4:25 pm
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       An RUC Simba? (a la Dougal axle donor)
       #Post#: 88223--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What is a Rare Landrover leafer ?
   DIR By: Wooden
       Date: May 13, 2014, 5:24 pm
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       ^^^good call.
       [URL=
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       Am I right in thinking that the wheelbase is wider than a normal
       series motor?
       #Post#: 88227--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What is a Rare Landrover leafer ?
   DIR By: linesrg
       Date: May 14, 2014, 12:48 am
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       Good Morning All,
       This always an emotive subject. I wish eBay would establish some
       criteria and block adverts for things which simply aren't rare
       but get advertised as such to catch the gullible.
       As the owner of an 1950 80" Mobile Welder I know what is rare.
       It is a fact there are are 18 of the original 48 80" Pre-Pro's
       known to exist in some form, so they aren't actually rare.
       There are probably 5 or 6 of the original 113 Mobile Welders
       left and I believe mine is one of only two currently road worthy
       (I think the Houbens is the only other one), it's last outing
       was the Series One 65th.
       Next would be my 86" Pre-Pro/ Pilot Build, built in late 1952
       and one of only 4 or 5 left from the original 9 made.
       It did trials with the Spanish Army and was converted in the
       factory to be a Mobile Welder. It will be made roadworthy again
       one day and needs extensive repair work to the bulkhead and will
       come out as fully functional welder vehicle making it rare both
       as an 86" prototype and then one of only 2 86" wheelbase Welder
       vehicles in the world, the other being in Australia.
       1948 year Land-Rovers aren't that rare and there are a fair
       number of Tickfords known to exist but they are probably rarer
       than 80" Pre-Pro's in real terms.
       I accept this is a narrow Series One perspective.
       As time moves on later vehicles become the focus of attention as
       the prices for early or genuinely rare Series Ones go ballistic.
       That's what drove me to get a low mileage FC 2B, they are
       already becoming difficult to get parts for. I enjoy a
       challenge.
       Regards
       Richard
       #Post#: 88238--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What is a Rare Landrover leafer ?
   DIR By: rangerovering
       Date: May 14, 2014, 8:48 am
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       Golden Rod (think I got the name right!)
       SWB Series 3 Stage 1, a last hurrah for the leafers
       #Post#: 88240--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What is a Rare Landrover leafer ?
   DIR By: Doug_T
       Date: May 14, 2014, 11:26 am
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       --- Quote from: rangerovering link ---
       >
       > SWB Series 3 Stage 1, a last hurrah for the leafers
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Good call, I saw a couple back in 2007 as I was working in the
       place where they ended up.
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