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       #Post#: 86707--------------------------------------------------
       Re: (Fairly) Modern Steam and Ship Phots.
       By: linesrg Date: March 28, 2014, 5:23 pm
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       Good Evening All,
       I'm currently serving as Master on Chevron's almost 18 year old
       Class 1 DP shuttle tanker Aberdeen having spent the best part of
       the last 30 years on various things that float in the North Sea
       or WoS.
       Regards
       Richard
       #Post#: 86709--------------------------------------------------
       Re: (Fairly) Modern Steam and Ship Phots.
       By: SteamPunk Date: March 28, 2014, 6:05 pm
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       Pleased to meet you all :)  I'm a 4E, having come into the
       profession recently after finding it difficult to settle into a
       desk career post uni. (For non MN, at 26 I'm old for my job)
       BP shipping has not long gotten rid of our last DP ship, the
       Loch Rannoch, which was on shuttle tanker duties in the North
       Sea. No DP ships left in the owned fleet now.
       I did one trip on a container ship only a couple of years back,
       UASC's MV Najran and that sure as hell wasn't like what I have
       now.  I still have a cracked tooth and a thumb that won't bend
       properly to show for it :smile1. [Incidentally, that had the
       biggest engine I have ever worked on, an 800mm bore Man B&W and
       I don't remember the piston rod being anywhere near as girt as
       that one chally2, what's that from?]
       gp3, your description matches my last chief to a T, over 45
       years at sea with the knowledge, temper, scars and moustache to
       prove it  ::)
       As regards cleanliness, this ship is only 12 years old and we
       get a decent crew size. In the ER we have three oilers, a
       fitter, two fourths and then one of each up to the Chief.
       So we have two oil and two water, two ex and two serving ( at
       polar opposites of the spectrum, it must be said  :) ) Anybody
       else out there? Serving or Ex; Any nationality, MN/RFA, RN,
       Fisherman, floating army, RNLI or something else?
       #Post#: 86720--------------------------------------------------
       Re: (Fairly) Modern Steam and Ship Phots.
       By: linesrg Date: March 29, 2014, 10:23 am
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       Good Afternoon All,
       I was C/O for two years on the Rannoch and then Master for
       three.
       Regards
       Richard
       #Post#: 86722--------------------------------------------------
       Re: (Fairly) Modern Steam and Ship Phots.
       By: SteamPunk Date: March 29, 2014, 10:43 am
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       [quote author=linesrg link=topic=7864.msg86720#msg86720
       date=1396106604]
       I was C/O for two years on the Rannoch and then Master for
       three.
       [/quote]
       On my final cadet trip I met Rob, who had been one of the CEs on
       the Rannoch, he said that when she went most of the ships
       company had preferred to stay in the North Sea rather than stay
       with the company. Makes sense to me, hell of a lifestyle change
       to suddenly go back to three months away at a time, especially
       if you have a family to worry about.
       Did you take her out to the Gulf of Mexico?  :rolleye0012:
       #Post#: 86966--------------------------------------------------
       Re: (Fairly) Modern Steam and Ship Phots.
       By: guest13 Date: April 6, 2014, 3:51 pm
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       That's impressively clean,  :eek:
       wish my plant looked anything like that clean
       #Post#: 86979--------------------------------------------------
       Re: (Fairly) Modern Steam and Ship Phots.
       By: chally2 Date: April 7, 2014, 2:36 am
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       That pistons is from a loop scavenge B&W.  Old under powered
       things.  This particular ship had two slow speed diesels 10 cyl
       each. Very small in comparison to the Sulzer 12RTA on the newer
       ships.  I believe there are bigger engines now but at the time
       it was the biggest diesel engine in the world.
       I did 7 years with P&O Nedloyd before joining the Army.
       #Post#: 87424--------------------------------------------------
       Re: (Fairly) Modern Steam and Ship Phots.
       By: moley Date: April 21, 2014, 7:46 pm
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       Evening all,
       Not yet in the but i'm applying as we speak to the Merchant Navy
       as a Engineer Cadet as we speak. I've got a interview on the 2
       May.
       One of the questions I was asked to prepare for my interview
       was, What type of ship would you prefer to serve on? i.e
       Contain, bulk haulage etc. I'm more intrested on working on
       Containers/bulk carriers rather than Cruise ships.
       Is there a type of ship you guys advise to stay away from? Or if
       offered a certain type to get into.
       If asked I'd say Container ship as more likey to go futher
       afield.
       Tom.
       #Post#: 87464--------------------------------------------------
       Re: (Fairly) Modern Steam and Ship Phots.
       By: gp3trainee Date: April 23, 2014, 11:14 am
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       Moley said:
       "Not yet in the but i'm applying as we speak to the Merchant
       Navy as a Engineer Cadet as we speak. I've got a interview on
       the 2 May.
       One of the questions I was asked to prepare for my interview
       was, What type of ship would you prefer to serve on? i.e
       Contain, bulk haulage etc. I'm more intrested on working on
       Containers/bulk carriers rather than Cruise ships.
       Is there a type of ship you guys advise to stay away from? Or if
       offered a certain type to get into.
       If asked I'd say Container ship as more likey to go futher
       afield. "
       Good luck with the interview, Moley.
       I've been ashore for some time now so am a bit out of touch but
       I'd suggest that you, as a potential engineer cadet answering
       the question, should give weight to the type of engineering
       experience you'll get.
       For your interview, you should probably play down the idea of
       foreign travel being a motivator.  In some outfits and on some
       trips, you might see a fair number of ports. On others
       (containers for example) you're likely to only be in port for a
       short while but, believe it or not, there are benefits to that.
       You should probably indicate that you're interested in as wide a
       range of ship sizes and types as possible, so that you'll learn
       the job from lots of different angles, under different operating
       conditions, with different engine types, and so build up your
       experience.  Might help if you do a bit of digging on the
       internet as to the sort of machinery fitted in modern ships.
       Don't forget, a lot of commercial vessels can last up to 25-30
       years so there's a fair amount of oldish stuff out there.
       Depends on which company you do your cadetship with.
       The current and ex-engineers on here might be able to give you
       better advice.
       Best advice I can give you, though, is to ignore any moaning old
       gits who tell you that the job's crap now and not as good as it
       used to be. I first went to sea nearly 40 years ago and, in my
       first five minutes on my first ship as a deck cadet, I had a
       load of old tossers asking me why the hell I'd bothered to come
       to sea because the job was crap and not like it was when they
       were lads.  No doubt, the same was being said to them when they
       first went to sea in the 1940's.  Ignore the bastards and enjoy
       your new career.
       #Post#: 87465--------------------------------------------------
       Re: (Fairly) Modern Steam and Ship Phots.
       By: chally2 Date: April 23, 2014, 11:55 am
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       When my Granddad went to sea he got months in port (bulk)
       When my Dad went to sea he got weeks in port (bulk)
       When I went to sea I got hours in port (container)
       The turn around is so quick it's almost impossible to get a beer
       ashore.
       If your wallet can take the hit (almost half the pay) go cruise
       as you can shag the cargo and that would make a 4 month trip go
       very fast.
       To give them a bullshit answer think about what type of engines
       you prefer.
       #Post#: 87479--------------------------------------------------
       Re: (Fairly) Modern Steam and Ship Phots.
       By: SteamPunk Date: April 23, 2014, 1:07 pm
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       Hi Moley
       As you may have gathered I'm fairly new to this as well and I'm
       loving it - and I've done a lot of other stuff to compare it
       against. As gp3trainee said, people aboard will ask you why you
       are doing it. In return, ask yourself why they are still doing
       it after 20-30 years (in some cases), jobs ashore are easy to
       get! :)
       There is too much that could be said to do it here! I'm ashore
       just now so if you fancy a chat then drop me a line,
       mark.brett@live.co.uk
       As regards ship types, it depends who is interviewing you. It
       doesn't matter too much who you do your cadetship with so tell
       them you like their kind best (with convincing reasons why ready
       to hand). If you get a better offer its ok to turn them down
       later. :thumbs:
       I didn't fancy cruise liners either and those I know that do
       like 'em are not there because they have a good professional
       work ethic  :rolleye0012:
       What shipping type you prefer will depend on what you want out
       of your career and people often move from type to type as other
       pressures in their lives dictate.
       If you have not yet done so I would urge you to research
       tankers, rig support vessels and special purpose ships (cable
       layers, heavy lift, buoy tenders, AHTS, dive boats etc). I would
       advise trying to come out of your cadetship with oil/gas,
       special tasking or DP experience. Make sure you have some
       understanding of what you might find in a Main Machinery Space
       (don't worry about steam ships at this stage, rare as rocking
       horse shit)
       
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