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       #Post#: 84633--------------------------------------------------
       200 di
   DIR By: monkeynuts
       Date: January 30, 2014, 2:06 pm
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       I guess its been talked about many times but here I go sorry.
       *help*
       Exactly how noisy / bad is a 200 di conversion?
       I am seriously thinking about converting my 109 but have never
       seen or heard one. Does anybody have one I could see near
       Southampton to have a listen before taking the plunge?
       Or should I stay petrol and save the pennies for  drink(*&
       #Post#: 84636--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 200 di
   DIR By: niteram
       Date: January 30, 2014, 3:44 pm
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       its very much a case of personal taste.
       some wouldn't drive anything but petrol engined others love
       their tdi's
       I guess it really depends why you want to convert and how
       original you want to keep your landy
       I also have a petrol 109, the engine is ok, but is a bit low on
       compression and blows a bit of oil, so I can either rebuild my
       petrol engine or for same sort of money I can fit a tdi
       If I fit tdi, it will give me better mpg and a bit more oomph
       (good for when I tow)
       #Post#: 84641--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 200 di
   DIR By: Toots
       Date: January 30, 2014, 5:11 pm
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       The di is a noisy rattly bastard. Mine went into my 88 to
       replace a tired 2.25 diesel. It'll do 30 mpg but at the cost of
       the ability to hold a conversation with your passenger. I've got
       a wrights acoustic matting set in too. I would stay petrol and
       invest in beer  :toothless:
       Now, a 200tdi in a series 3 dormobile is a different matter and
       I am led to believe the turbo shuts it up a bit :smilewide:
       #Post#: 84643--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 200 di
   DIR By: tonyg
       Date: January 31, 2014, 12:44 am
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       I have a 200di in a 109 that replaced a worn petrol engine. Im
       very pleased with it. It is not much different noise wise to my
       88" 2.25 diesel station wagon. However, my 109 is a rag top so
       noise levels will be different I suppose. Just make sure that
       you use either OEM Defender engine mount rubbers (NOT SHITPART
       MOUNTS...) or fit the huge discovery engine mounts.
       T
       #Post#: 84644--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 200 di
   DIR By: mandylandy
       Date: January 31, 2014, 12:52 am
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       The turbo does quieter things down. My s3 88 with acoustic
       stuff under bonnet and on transmission tunnel and good rubber
       floor mats could never be called noisy to the point at which
       conversation is difficult.the flexibility,fuel bonus and
       reliability IMO , make it all so overly worth it if you do a few
       longish journeys. I have o/d and 3.54 diffs, and it's great.
       Maybe no good for a lot of off road stuff but that is not my
       bag. It's a horse for course job I guess! :lightblb:
       #Post#: 84647--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 200 di
   DIR By: Toots
       Date: January 31, 2014, 6:40 am
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       Can't deny that it's much more drivable than with 2.25 diseasel.
       And as Tony says oem d******r mounts are the best of the bunch
       when it comes to dumbing down vibration.
       #Post#: 84652--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 200 di
   DIR By: AlexB
       Date: January 31, 2014, 11:55 am
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       My 88 pick up is 2 1/4 diesel and great for farm work. My green
       Dormobile weighs 2 tonnes and needs the tdi as I do lots of
       miles abroad in it, requiring higher speed cruising (65-70) and
       frugality. The downside of this is fewer conversations with
       passengers and not being able to hear the wireless.
       #Post#: 84654--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 200 di
   DIR By: monkeynuts
       Date: January 31, 2014, 12:12 pm
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       Thank for all the replies. I think I will go down this route.
       Just want to see and hear one for real first before I spend some
       dosh.
       By using defender rubbers do you just mean the rubbers alone?
       And if disco mounts chassis modification.
       #Post#: 84669--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 200 di
   DIR By: Hinchy1964
       Date: January 31, 2014, 4:07 pm
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       +1 for the 200di in my sawn off 109 truck cab and with the
       Ashcroft high ratio transfer gears it cruises nicely and sips
       diesel. Big gap between 3rd and 4th but at least 1st is now
       useable.
       Careful sound proofing really helps as well and I don't have a
       radio so that's not a problem either, I just sing louder.
       'Fewer conversations with the passenger', that means you cant
       practice your French then Alex?
       Ian
       #Post#: 84670--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 200 di
   DIR By: nickjaxe
       Date: January 31, 2014, 4:27 pm
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       I ha the DI version in my soft top 88"...had the 2.25d in it
       before...not really much difference noise wise...but you need
       something to get the gearing up to keep the revs down if  you
       dont already have an o/d...saying that I had a go at insulating
       mine years ago with carpets bits under the seats and wherever
       else I could fit them....must do under the bonnet someday,
       I used to but I found the engine was powerfull enough to pull
       3.5 diffs out of the disco I broke for the engine,
       I wanted to keep the engine as simple as I could to be more in
       keeping with a Series Landrover,
       I managed to mod the battery/air filter carrier to be able to
       keep them both under the bonnet in more or the std postion,
       I suppose with you having a 109 it will weigh more so be down on
       power a bit compaired with mine...but I'm well pleased...getting
       35mpg back and to to work...more on a long run.
       Nick.
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