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       #Post#: 83200--------------------------------------------------
       35mm cameras
       By: abercorn Date: January 2, 2014, 6:30 am
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       Those of us who believe that buying a car without a starting
       handle option is asking for trouble are often deeply suspicious
       of spending money on things we can't fix ourselves. I know this
       can extend to other parts of our lives especially photography. I
       also tend to prefer mechanics to electronics I have recently
       developed a case of Compulsive 35mm Camera Purchasing Syndrome.
       Usually alcohol fueled and often from eBay on a Saturday night,
       I'll put some photos up later today.
       About 10 years ago I inherited my late father's pride and joy, a
       Contax 167M with wonderful Zeiss Lenses, a much underated SLR
       but a bit too electronic for my liking so I backed it up with a
       Pentax MX from the early 1970's.
       A recent work project involved having to photograph on a gas
       terminal. as electronics is a no no and involves heaps of
       paperwork, even an LR44 battery, I went a bit mad buying Soviet
       era rangefinder cameras and now have a Fed 4, a Zorki 3 and a
       Kiev 4. The Zorki is physically very close to a Leica 2. after
       WW2, the Russians helped themselves to the Leica production
       lines at Dresden and the Contax/Zeiss ones at Jena. The
       machinery, technology and expertise were all moved to Russia
       (employees relocated whether they wanted to or not) and this
       started the Soviet optics industry. Over the next 40 odd years
       excellent quality lenses were churned out. These rangefinders
       are really nice bits of kit, very well made with excellent
       attention to detail and some superbly Soviet modifications
       making them stand out from their decadent western bourgeois
       counterparts.
       We use the Kiev (a Contax clone) on a daily basis for
       photographing in the live gas refineries. The zorki and Fed are
       used more out of interest. I'm a huge fan of rangefinders over
       SLRS, both have their advantages but there are more 'fiddliing
       around' opportunities with a rangefinder :smile1
       I've recently added an Olympus OM10 with accessories and a
       splendid aluminium flight case for about £40.
       I've got so into 35mm photography again that I've even recently
       sold my Leica Digilux 2 digital rangefinder. We've still got a
       wee Leica D2 point and click which does take superb snaps,
       bought last year from ebay for £100. I drool over affording a
       Leica M series digital rangefinder though.
       Having said all this I am also a hypocrite and do see the
       advantages of Spotify over the 1916 gramophone that sits in the
       living room and some mornings the cut throat razor just seems
       like too much hassle over the saftey razor option! ;-)
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       Re: 35mm cameras
       By: hippydave Date: January 2, 2014, 11:32 am
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       some of them make my partica mtl5b sound almost modern
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       Re: 35mm cameras
       By: Dave Date: January 2, 2014, 12:08 pm
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       I used to have a Russian Zenit 35mm SLR camera that had no
       electronics or batteries in it whatsoever. I've still got a
       Ricoh XRX3PF SLR but haven't used it in over 10 years. When the
       interwebz and digital cameras came along I never bothered with
       film again.
       Shame really cos prints that were taken a hundred years ago
       still exist but digital pics can be wiped out in an instant by
       computer gremlins.
       I think the period of history we're going through will become
       some sort of dark ages in the future. People will be able to
       pick up, look at and read stuff from the 20th century and before
       but there'll be nothing left of this time when all the computers
       have gone pop or are obsolete so that no one can view what's on
       them.
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       Re: 35mm cameras
       By: abercorn Date: January 2, 2014, 12:18 pm
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       I was waffling on so much about my cameras that I forgot about
       my question...
       If you are in this forum then you may well be able to answer...
       Now I'm taking all these 35mm shots I'm thinking about investing
       in dark room equipment for black and white at least.
       I'm looking into enlargers and have come across an old soviet
       type that is able to be transported in a suitcase...this appeals
       for 3 reasons -
       1/ It's portable....
       2/Soviet era optics are usually very good quality and well
       engineered unlike ...say....soviet shoes.
       3/it was made by the glorious workers of the dictatorship of the
       proletariat in a factory powered by the wonders of uncontrolled
       uranium fusion which will impress my Eastern Bloc Car obsessed
       friend, Sam Glover.
       has anyone used an enlarger of this type before? If so, are they
       any good.
       now, rather than ask this question on a photogeek forum where it
       will probably start a discussion around prisms and fixer pH etc
       etc :rolleye0012:
       I thought ah! I know, I'll ask the question at the OLSLRF which
       I have just joined as I bet there is someone there who has come
       across an enlarger of this type here..and then i forgot to ask
       the question.
       I'll get the photos of the cameras up later.
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       Re: 35mm cameras
       By: abercorn Date: January 2, 2014, 12:24 pm
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       Zenit 35mm!
       phwaooarrr >rock<
       great for defending yourself from mugarz as 2 kilos of brass on
       the end of a leather strap makes a superb cosh and will still
       work afterwards!
       I also have a Richo XRX3PF SLR, really nice to use
       I think your point about digital media is a good one. One of the
       reasons why I like using film is as film and developing costs
       money I put greater care into taking photos. It's more
       interactive!
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       Re: 35mm cameras
       By: mikecoppicegreen Date: January 2, 2014, 2:05 pm
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       I'm slowly getting back into 35mm, after a gap of several years.
       My first slr was a praktica with a removable pentaprism, but
       now its minolta autofocus that uses the same lenses as my sony
       a77.
       as to the enlarger, it's years since I used a darkroom, sorry.
       At the end of the day its all about the lens, obviously, but
       also the diffuser ( or condenser? ) so that you get even
       exposures. If you can see some prints from the enlarger before
       you buy, you may get an idea about the diffuser.  If prints
       lighten towards the edge, then the diffuser is not good/ set
       up.. If the lens is toast, you have a fair chance of finding
       another one that fits, I would have thought.
       hope this helps,
       Mike
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       Re: 35mm cameras
       By: Calum Date: January 2, 2014, 2:29 pm
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       Still use 35mms; a Minolta XG-M my dad bought new in 1981 and a
       Canon AV-1 I picked up cheap as a stop gap one weekend when I
       didn't have time to look at the Minolta (it was broken with a
       jammed shutter after a drop!!). Been working through quite a few
       old expired rolls of film recently.
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       Re: 35mm cameras
       By: abercorn Date: January 2, 2014, 2:50 pm
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       Minoltas are excellent. One of my mates has a digital back plate
       for his old 80's vintage Minolta and swears by it. I had one of
       those Minox cameras with the 'drawbridge' lens mechanism - used
       to take great photos for such a wee camera. The definition you
       have in those photos is superb.
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       Re: 35mm cameras
       By: Sunny Jim Date: January 3, 2014, 5:00 pm
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       I got rid of my darkroom equipment a couple of years ago, having
       gone digital in 2005. I have some large stove enamelled chemical
       trays that now get used for cleaning Land Rover and Railway
       parts. That said, I still have 3 Pentax MX bodies with various
       lenses that I am loathed to throw out, they do go for a few
       pounds on Ebay, presumably to people who like that kind of
       thing! Was the Pentax MX the last all mechanical camera? Yes it
       had build in light metering, but if the batteries went flat, you
       could just get out the old Gossen Sixtomat and set the exposure
       manually. They actually had cloth blind horizontal shutters too.
       Interestingly, I have got some proper darkroom prints of Railway
       subjects from 100 or more years ago, so obviously copies off
       glass plate negatives. I have tried scanning them to enlarge the
       detail (such as reading works plates) but they just look fuzzy.
       Examining the print itself with a magnifying glass, you can
       actually read all the detail with no problem! It is possible to
       get digital photos printed, but the prints may deteriorate over
       time, whereas glass plates have already survived well over a
       century.
       A bloke came round the railway back in the Summer last year with
       a couple of russian 35mm Leica rip-offs - I hadn't seen any for
       years!
       Sunny Jim
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       Re: 35mm cameras
       By: genem Date: January 4, 2014, 9:12 am
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       I've an Olympus OM1 stashed somewhere but I've not used film
       since I bought a digital, probably '99 or 2000 ?
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