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       trials
   DIR By: Lucy
       Date: November 19, 2013, 12:49 pm
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       Always fancied having a go at this but never got around to it. I
       know there's a few on here that take part in these shinannigans,
       any tips for getting involved?
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       Re: trials
   DIR By: StuartN
       Date: November 19, 2013, 1:05 pm
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       Find your local Land Rover club that is a member of the ALRC
       (association) and join up and get involved. When you find them
       just check they have involvement in trials. When you first go to
       one you should be well looked after and will probably be offered
       a ride in with someone. If you google ALRC they have a list of
       all the clubs on their site.
       S  :thumbs:
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       Re: trials
   DIR By: mick swb
       Date: November 19, 2013, 1:23 pm
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       Which part of the north east are you involved in Stuart.
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       Re: trials
   DIR By: StuartN
       Date: November 19, 2013, 1:38 pm
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       I am in NERO or or North East Rover Owners. A lot of the members
       seem to be in my area. Had been looking at the Yorkshire club
       but at the time their site was down and the members are further
       from me. NERO xmas do is 20 mins walk from my house.
       S  :thumbs:
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       Re: trials
   DIR By: Landyphil
       Date: November 19, 2013, 3:56 pm
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       ^ As above and get watching or marshalling for a few events.
       You'll hopefully see that about 99% of what most people consider
       useful off road driving techniques means pretty much zippo dippo
       on a proper trial section.
       The biggest thing vehicle wise is tyres and (always a problem)
       steering lock!
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       Re: trials
   DIR By: Lucy
       Date: November 19, 2013, 4:58 pm
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       Do you know greame and fresca, Stuart?
       I've looked at p&d but website looks pretty dead.
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       Re: trials
   DIR By: Glen
       Date: November 19, 2013, 6:52 pm
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       Been to a few P and D trials around 2005/06 (hadn't long had the
       truck) and it was quite good as a spectator.  Small but friendly
       group.  The website was quite dead back then too as I think it
       was more based on real life rather than internet.  Always ment
       to actully have a go one day but having a truck without
       seatbelts is a no no, and I didn't want to overly risk damaging
       the station wagon anyway.  Since then life has sort of got in
       the way with time and money so I've not been back, would like to
       though - let me know if you go to one - I used to just turn up
       and people were friendly (calender is probubly nearly done for
       the year though).
       I really should have had a go when I had that Tdi'd 2A but as
       ever it was he front line work truck at the time that I didn't
       want to expose to maintinance increaseing risks.
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       Re: trials
   DIR By: StuartN
       Date: November 20, 2013, 12:56 am
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       Lucy I'm not 100pc who I know as I am terrible with names and
       haven't been around very long yet.
       Which is P and D? Don't think iv heard of that.
       S
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       Re: trials
   DIR By: s.o.t.d.
       Date: November 20, 2013, 4:23 am
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       I used to be a member here a long time ago. Everything was very
       informal and easygoing then. It may be worth a look, Lucy.
       :smile1
  HTML http://www.badlrc.co.uk/index.php/component/ohanah/trial-4?Itemid=506
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       Re: trials
   DIR By: megatoad
       Date: November 20, 2013, 7:20 am
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       Hi Lucy
       Yes some of the club sites are prety crud, but usually they are
       there just to provide contact details.
       P&D are from my understanding a good long standing club. Blimey
       just lookad their websitee, thats worse than the Yorkshire site!
       The most common trial for starters are the Road Taxed Vehicle
       Trials "RTV". In general these cater for general standard
       vehicles. To get playing the vehicle usually requires little
       modification.
       The most important of these are:
       - Most critically a 2nd throttle return spring situated as close
       to the throttle linkage on the carb / injector pump as possible.
       This is to try ensure the engine returns to idle in case of any
       problems
       - Seat belts / lap straps even on vehicles that do not legally
       require them
       - Some clubs like to see a front recovery point, this could be D
       rings, a front towball etc. Though I have trialled with a tow
       rope attached via the front PTO hole.
       - A good quality tow rope just in case
       - Rear recovery point, usually a standard towbar
       - Some clubs require a fire extinguisher in each vehicle
       Most of these are for safety/recovery just in case.
       In reality an RTV trial should be non damaging. The idea is to
       travel as far as possible along a route set out over difficult
       terrain via a series of numbered gates without either hitting a
       gate or stopping.
       The gates start at 12 and count down to 1.
       The drivers get the opportuninty to walk the section before
       driving to assess the obstacles, then one chance at driving it.
       If you stop befor the end then you are penalised by accumulating
       the number of points as defined by the next gate in the sequnce
       that you have not reached. E.g. if you get through the gate
       marked 5 without touching it but stop forward movement, possibly
       stuck in a hole, then you are marked as receiving a 4.
       If you hit a gate, say touch one or other of the canes of the 5
       gate then you get a 5
       If you traverse the course without stopping or hitting a get
       then you get what is called a clear or 0
       This route is called a section and a trial will consist of a
       number of sections, it usually depends how many vehicles are
       entered as to how many sections are run in aday
       The idea is to get as few penalty points as possible.
       It is a great day out, most clubs are very sociable
       In your part of the world there are also Lincs LRC,
       Leicestershire & Rutland, Peak & Dukeries, possibly Midland ROC
       These are all "Association of Land Rover Clubs" or ALRC clubs
  HTML http://www.alrc.co.uk/
  HTML http://www.alrc.co.uk/
       which is a Motorsport governing body.
       There are also a number of other non ALRC LR clubs, some of
       these have left or splintered from the ALRC as they did not like
       the strict rules. then there are all mark 4x4 clubs.
       I personally prefer the ALRC despite some of its frustrating
       regs, looking at the oter clubs there RTVs tend to be more
       extreme and definatly non damaging.
       That said, it IS motorsport, and accidents CAN happen.
       Hope this helps a bit
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