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       #Post#: 79138--------------------------------------------------
       Whats the worst that could happen?
   DIR By: ashcrroft752
       Date: November 7, 2013, 5:56 pm
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       I think my reverse gate spring or springs have broken or fallen
       off.
       Other than accidentally selecting reverse instead of 1st gear
       what’s the worst that could happen?
       I'm thinking I can carry on driving until I can obtain
       replacement springs?
       #Post#: 79139--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Whats the worst that could happen?
   DIR By: espacekiller
       Date: November 7, 2013, 6:07 pm
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       Just be careful, the box I just rebuilt was in very good
       condition but the gate spring was missing, the only issue was
       the reverse idler which had 2 chipped teeth I assume as a result
       of the broken gate.
       My guess is the spring which gets stretched the most has snapped
       allowing the gate to sit open, if you swap the remaining spring
       the stretchiest position the gate should  close and still work
       just it will be slightly easier to push past.
       #Post#: 79141--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Whats the worst that could happen?
   DIR By: Stuey
       Date: November 7, 2013, 6:51 pm
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       Prescilla's were like that when I got it,  to which the bloke
       tried bluffing his case claiming 'All these old Land Rovers are
       like that' Just a bit sloppy trying to find the 'ole (ooo err
       missus).  When I was wanting first I always selected second then
       slipped it into first.
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       Re: Whats the worst that could happen?
   DIR By: ashcrroft752
       Date: November 7, 2013, 8:05 pm
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       Floor out tomorrow then! ::)
       #Post#: 79145--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Whats the worst that could happen?
   DIR By: Matthew
       Date: November 7, 2013, 8:13 pm
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       ^^ As Stuey says - still quite driveable if you adapt by going
       for second before slotting up into first. Mine has a detent but
       I've driven at least 3 without one, and though it's a bit of a
       ballache at first you do get used to it after a bit. Once
       re-familiarised, you can probably find first directly again -
       Edwin Foden of this 'ere parish once told me he soon mastered
       doing so with his when he bought it like that (having let me
       have a go in it and watched me fail miserably at it).
       It also helps if you are lucky enough to have an identifying
       mark or feature on the dash to line the gearlever knob up with
       (ie. in mine, I could use the aux gauges to judge how far to
       move the lever across. If, say, you had an S1 or S1 you could
       pencil a couple of marks onto the dash shelf.)
       #Post#: 79146--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Whats the worst that could happen?
   DIR By: Landyphil
       Date: November 8, 2013, 12:07 am
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       Yup that D suffix 2A box n the racer lost it's reverse gate
       spring long before I got it and I've never really felt like
       putting it right as if you look at the layout in the box going
       into 2nd before 1st as you're about to set off if I remember
       correctly (or could be talking bobbins here) was somehow better
       for what was on the shaft but can't remember why.
       Either way it's never given me any bother. That said my
       gearlever is 2 of them welded together to bring the reach over
       to the drivers side more (handy when strapped in tight)
       #Post#: 79387--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Whats the worst that could happen?
   DIR By: seriesewan
       Date: November 11, 2013, 2:48 am
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       i have broken 2 reverse gates now,  even  the branded land rover
       part that you can buy is made of cheese ( and cost a kings
       ransom for what it is )
       More trouble than they are worth imho,  as when they break  the
       spring(s) that pull it shut  tend to twist the whole assemly
       forward, partially selecting reverse & generally making  it
       quite hard to select any gear at all!.
       removing sections of floor tunnel in tescos carpark in the
       pissing rain at night = not much fun.  after it died for the
       second time i removed the blasted thing
       if you remove it though you will need to make a bit of angled
       bracket to turn on the reverse lamps.
       #Post#: 79405--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Whats the worst that could happen?
   DIR By: ashcrroft752
       Date: November 11, 2013, 11:26 am
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       --- Quote from: seriesewan link ---
       >
       > if you remove it though you will need to make a bit of angled
       bracket to turn on the reverse lamps.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm not that posh! I'm getting used to it without the gate, I
       can forsee a problem when my Dad next drives it though, springs
       on order to be fitted when I can be arsed to take out the floor.
       #Post#: 80811--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Whats the worst that could happen?
   DIR By: StuartN
       Date: November 24, 2013, 2:23 pm
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       Betsy just did the same damn thing today on pur way to Reeth for
       a spot of laning. Luckily still perfectly driveable and you can
       still feel it go past the gate to reverse. CBA with needing to
       fix it but don't like leavong stuff undone.
       S :-\
       #Post#: 80948--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Whats the worst that could happen?
   DIR By: ashcrroft752
       Date: November 26, 2013, 10:36 am
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       2 new springs fitted gear stick ball joint greased and all is
       good in the gay hybrid world of gear shifting. ;D Just need to
       fit the new seals in the clutch slave and master, but thats a
       job for tomorrow.
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