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       #Post#: 79397--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Model Railway wagon-building masterclass
       By: megatoad Date: November 11, 2013, 8:24 am
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       Hi Dave, yes you missed out the actual important bit. the final
       weathering !!
       Thats the bit that has always scared me and put me off fiddling
       too much with RTR stuff
       #Post#: 79399--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Model Railway wagon-building masterclass
       By: 1960SeriesII Date: November 11, 2013, 8:43 am
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       Noone's used to a quiet, attentive audience nowadays! Everyone
       wants loud shouts of appreciation from the general public before
       feeling his work is being followed ;D
       Or the know-how is so unique an excuse had to be made up to keep
       it secret :)
       Good work, as always I had to take a second look to be able to
       tell whether it's a scale model :haha:
       #Post#: 79406--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Model Railway wagon-building masterclass
       By: prof-pat-pending Date: November 11, 2013, 11:27 am
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       [quote author=1960SeriesII link=topic=7155.msg79399#msg79399
       date=1384181038]
       Noone's used to a quiet, attentive audience nowadays! Everyone
       wants loud shouts of appreciation from the general public before
       feeling his work is being followed ;D
       [/quote]
       very loud shout of appreciation here - more please !!
       thankyou
       #Post#: 79408--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Model Railway wagon-building masterclass
       By: ashcrroft752 Date: November 11, 2013, 11:31 am
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       It all looks real :thumbs: How do you get the paint to lift at
       the edges of the rust?
       #Post#: 79428--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Model Railway wagon-building masterclass
       By: bubble Date: November 11, 2013, 2:06 pm
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       Mate, that is brilliant. You've got a real flair for that. I
       keep looking at that photo again and again as detail in not only
       the wagon but the stuff in the background is amazing. A real
       inspiration for wanna be modelers like me! Keep it coming...
       >rock<
       #Post#: 79450--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Model Railway wagon-building masterclass
       By: Dave Date: November 11, 2013, 4:23 pm
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       [quote]How do you get the paint to lift at the edges of the
       rust?
       [/quote]
       When the top coat has dried (dried to the point it isn't wet but
       isn't fully cured) I pick the rubber masking with tweezers and
       pull it off. This lets the edges of the paint lift and stretch
       slightly so it looks like old flaking paint.
       [quote author=megatoad link=topic=7155.msg79397#msg79397
       date=1384179881]
       Hi Dave, yes you missed out the actual important bit. the final
       weathering !!
       Thats the bit that has always scared me and put me off fiddling
       too much with RTR stuff
       [/quote]
       Apart from the flaky paint there are other techniques used. One
       is called dry brushing and is used to highlight things such as
       the underframe and the springs. To do it you dip the end of the
       brush in the required colour (something quite a bit lighter than
       what the top coat of paint is - in this case a light rust colour
       would highlight the springs and other under frame bits) and go
       over some old newspaper, cardboard or anything at all to take
       most of the paint off the brush until what remains is almost
       dry. You then lightly go over the piece and the paint sticks to
       raise parts only. It's something that takes practice to know how
       much paint to take off the brush. Another place to use dry
       brushing is on the cab steps on a locomotive, where the paint
       wears off and the edges of the steps show shiny polished steel
       from the enginemen's boots. Here you'd use silver or a specific
       colour sold as "polished steel".
       Another thing when painting something that's going to be dirty
       and weathered and is supposed to be black topcoat (such as the
       frames and brake gear on this wagon) is not to use straight
       black. Always mix in a small amount of white so what you end up
       painting is a very dark grey. Actual colours don't always "scale
       down" and, also, things fade and that's the point of weathering
       - to make it look old/used/weatherbeaten/dirty/dmaged etc. - not
       ex-works or out of a showroom.
       Also, even if something is painted gloss on the real thing,
       don't use gloss paint. It will appear too shiny - shine also
       doesn't "scale down". When you buy a die cast road vehicle it is
       always very shiny because that's how collectors want them but
       collectors aren't modellers and don't care that they don't look
       realistic. I either paint a coat of matt varnish on or take the
       shine off with 1000 grit wet and dry paper.
       There's loads more but it would fill a book...
       #Post#: 79454--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Model Railway wagon-building masterclass
       By: Lardrover Date: November 11, 2013, 4:47 pm
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       Just had my quarterly bath and check in here and seen this
       thread straight away. Chuffed to bits with it, yes I know what I
       did there. I'm not convinced that isn't a real wagon, need a
       longer shot to prove it. Wish you had taken some more photo's of
       work in progress though,
       Please don't stop posting stuff like this Dave, it's good, it's
       not easy to do well without a lot of time and practise, and it's
       appreciated.
       Do I need to massage your fragile ego some more or can we see
       more projects now :-)
       Edited to add that I've just seen your other model railway
       threads, now I had something to look for. It's brill :-)
       #Post#: 79458--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Model Railway wagon-building masterclass
       By: Peter de Dawg Date: November 11, 2013, 5:11 pm
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       Absolutely fucking awesome sir ..!    As others have
       said.....more please..
       #Post#: 79463--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Model Railway wagon-building masterclass
       By: ashcrroft752 Date: November 11, 2013, 7:44 pm
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       This post has given me the urge to start doing 1/35 scale tanks
       again.
       #Post#: 79665--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Model Railway wagon-building masterclass
       By: puddlejumper Date: November 14, 2013, 11:39 am
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       [quote author=Dave link=topic=7155.msg79244#msg79244
       date=1384021496]
       I wasn't sure anyone was really interested so I wasn't arsed to
       take any more pics and just cracked on and finished it.
       [URL=
  HTML http://s92.photobucket.com/user/soddit36/media/soddit36014/16tonner-004.jpg.html][IMG]http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/soddit36/soddit36014/16tonner-004.jpg[/img][/URL]
       [/quote]
       Dave
       Is this on RMWeb?
       Loving your work and layout is superb, had mine out at Newcastle
       show and will have to put some pics on here when I get round to
       it
       Doug
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