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Re: Model Railway wagon-building masterclass
By: megatoad Date: November 7, 2013, 1:55 pm
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From one MR buff to another, lookin good so far
what size layout do you have? I'd love to move up to 0 gauge,
but at £600 starting for a loco, that gets splurged on the
Landies :rolleye0012:
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Re: Model Railway wagon-building masterclass
By: Dave Date: November 7, 2013, 2:21 pm
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[quote author=megatoad link=topic=7155.msg79096#msg79096
date=1383854142]
From one MR buff to another, lookin good so far
what size layout do you have? I'd love to move up to 0 gauge,
but at £600 starting for a loco, that gets splurged on the
Landies :rolleye0012:
[/quote]
You're looking at the wrong sort of locos! Mine are almost all
kit-built industrial shunting engines and are around £250 each,
all in with wheels, motor, gearbox etc.
My layout is a shunting plank, 12ft. x 18ins but I'm working on
a shed to house a U-shaped layout with two 12ft. long scenic
sections linked by an outside tunnel. There are pics of the
layout in this section of the forum -
HTML http://ollr.createaforum.com/anoraks-corner/pictures-from-my-model-railway/
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Re: Model Railway wagon-building masterclass
By: Dave Date: November 8, 2013, 11:01 am
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A bit more done between work today.
The body is painted al over with a mix of dark brown enamel
paint. This undercoat represents old weathered rust.
[URL=
HTML http://s92.photobucket.com/user/soddit36/media/soddit36014/16tonner-001.jpg.html][IMG]http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/soddit36/soddit36014/16tonner-001.jpg[/img][/URL]
On this one I'm adding extra detail in the form of repair
patches. This was quite common as wagons got older due to the
abrasive and corrosive nature of the load. Often, especially
later in their lives, wagons would be patch repaired and the
patches not even painted. Even on those that were painted it
tended to come off quicker than the original paint. I've made
the patches from 10 thou. plastic sheet and stuck them on using
superglue.
[URL=
HTML http://s92.photobucket.com/user/soddit36/media/soddit36014/16tonner-002.jpg.html][IMG]http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/soddit36/soddit36014/16tonner-002.jpg[/img][/URL]
The patches have been painted in a more orangey mix to represent
newer rust. Orangey pigment powder has been brushed over the
paint on the patches whilst still tacky and a quick-drying
liquid rubber, called Maskol, has been painted and splodged over
parts of the wagon. This will mask the parts that I want the
rust to show through the grey top coat.
[URL=
HTML http://s92.photobucket.com/user/soddit36/media/soddit36014/16tonner-003.jpg.html][IMG]http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/soddit36/soddit36014/16tonner-003.jpg[/img][/URL]
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Re: Model Railway wagon-building masterclass
By: megatoad Date: November 8, 2013, 1:56 pm
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Ahh yes, I did see that thread a wee while back, a splendid
railway there.
I like fettling my layout, but mainly in the winter months, I
have never really done much scenery wise, though my dock is the
most worked on.
I shall do some more throught he winter.
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Re: Model Railway wagon-building masterclass
By: Sunny Jim Date: November 8, 2013, 4:05 pm
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Wooden wagons gradually increased in size and capacity over the
years. Early ones had grease axle boxes and started off with ca
6 ton payloads and wooden 'dumb' buffers. RCH standards were
introduced in the 1880s which specified overall dimensions etc.
Later wagons were 12 ton capacity, being increased to 13 tons
with heavier springs in the war. There were 15 ton mineral
wagons with both wooden and metal underframes built to 1907
general standards. Wagons could have side doors only, or be
equipped with end and bottom doors.
These that Dave is on about were known as 16 ton mineral wagons,
but obviously weren't entirely standardised! The extra hinged
bit above the door is to allow stuff to be craned in using the
small yard hand cranes that were common at one time, these were
usually a few tons capacity, but could only lift a short way and
then swing round - hence needing the bit above the door out of
the way. This was generally referred to as a merchandise wagon
rather than a mineral wagon, so could carry general loads of
just about anything. It also allowed stuff to be barrowed in
with a sack truck or similar.
In reality, the failure to move to larger wagons, and bogie
wagons, was one of many reasons for the decline of freight
traffic by rail. A lot of goods depots had turntables and
traversers that could only handle 4 wheel wagons, so we carried
on building them! A lot of shunting was done by capstans at
large depots, but horses were still used a lot at smaller
stations, so wagons had a loop type handle on the side called a
'horse iron' to attach chains to for shunting by capstan or
horse! The investment needed to move away from this sort of
practice came too late.
One of my railway friends makes exquisitely (obsessively?)
detailed wagons with opening doors and even working brake gear.
At the Midland Railway we have quite a collection of wagons, the
oldest dating to 1872.
Sunny Jim
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Re: Model Railway wagon-building masterclass
By: Dave Date: November 9, 2013, 12:24 pm
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I wasn't sure anyone was really interested so I wasn't arsed to
take any more pics and just cracked on and finished it.
[URL=
HTML http://s92.photobucket.com/user/soddit36/media/soddit36014/16tonner-004.jpg.html][IMG]http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/soddit36/soddit36014/16tonner-004.jpg[/img][/URL]
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Re: Model Railway wagon-building masterclass
By: prof-pat-pending Date: November 9, 2013, 12:46 pm
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looks good :thumbs:
shame about the inbetween pics :rolleye0012:
but still looks good :thumbs:
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Re: Model Railway wagon-building masterclass
By: PROPERJOB Date: November 10, 2013, 2:59 pm
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Nice job Dave, looks the dogs danglies, will show the thread to
a good mate of mine (Dave Spencer) he writes a lot of wagon
building articles for the mags.
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Re: Model Railway wagon-building masterclass
By: espacekiller Date: November 10, 2013, 3:42 pm
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Excellent work thanks Dave still stunned by your skills, showed
it to the wife and she didn't believe it was a model, i had to
show her the in progress shots. She said "kinell thats amazing"
:thumbs:
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Re: Model Railway wagon-building masterclass
By: AllanI Date: November 11, 2013, 3:30 am
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[quote author=Dave link=topic=7155.msg79244#msg79244
date=1384021496]
I wasn't sure anyone was really interested so I wasn't arsed to
take any more pics and just cracked on and finished it.
[/quote]
How could you think that with the number of views this got? Your
modelling skills are excellent and worthy of a wider audience.
Allan
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