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       #Post#: 77002--------------------------------------------------
       Fan blade removal
   DIR By: Tigerbiker
       Date: October 13, 2013, 8:13 am
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       How easy is it to remove the fan blades from near the radiator?
       Can it be done in situ? I'm thinking November to February Rusty
       would be able to cope as I only do 5, possibly 20 miles at a
       push at any one time.  Would my engine overheat?  Would I save
       any fuel?  Is it too dangerous to risk?  Usually I just put a
       custom cut black board up in front of the radiator that
       restricts 80% of the air flow, helping both the rad and engine
       to keep warmer.  That works very effectively, rad has never
       overheated.  I'm happy with my anti freeze so not unduly
       concerned about that freezing. Any experience/advice?
       #Post#: 77003--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fan blade removal
   DIR By: goinnowherefast
       Date: October 13, 2013, 9:20 am
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       I wouldnt do it,
       the benefits would be minimal and if you got it wrong you will
       imbalance it and it will vibrate wrecking the water pump
       bearings....
       #Post#: 77004--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fan blade removal
   DIR By: GlenAnderson
       Date: October 13, 2013, 9:25 am
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       I think he meant remove them completely.
       Four bolts and it's off.  Use a couple of extra washers under
       each bolt to make up for losing the thickness of the fan, so the
       bolts don't jam on the pump body.
       Will be fine without it until the weather warms up.
       #Post#: 77005--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fan blade removal
   DIR By: Tigerbiker
       Date: October 13, 2013, 9:49 am
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       Hmm... food for thought, thanks for both your replies.  Anybody
       else want to tip the balance, although I not a committed fan of
       democracy.
       #Post#: 77008--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fan blade removal
   DIR By: Drew
       Date: October 13, 2013, 10:04 am
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       Absolutely no savings to be made by doing this for such short
       trips...and you do, at worst, risk cooking the engine if it's a
       petrol unit and you go a bit further than planned (a diesel will
       take a bit more heat before it needs fanning).
       I wouldn't bother, as you'll only be putting it back in a couple
       of weeks when it evolves the weather men have got it wrong.
       Just fit a rad-muff.
       #Post#: 77014--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fan blade removal
   DIR By: AlexB
       Date: October 13, 2013, 10:58 am
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       if it is only for 20 odd miles, wear thermal gloves you wuss
       #Post#: 77041--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fan blade removal
   DIR By: Bert the Bodger
       Date: October 13, 2013, 2:00 pm
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       Used to regularly remove fan in winter months from petrols
       (other than LR) on commute of twenty odd miles. I don't think
       I'd do it nowadays with an engine I valued...
       Richard
       #Post#: 77058--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fan blade removal
   DIR By: Tigerbiker
       Date: October 13, 2013, 3:04 pm
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       Thank you all for your insight.  I'll think I'll stick with the
       Status Quo, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" >rcker<
       #Post#: 77101--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fan blade removal
   DIR By: ant2f159
       Date: October 13, 2013, 7:59 pm
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       Another option would be to fult an electric fan? Either on a
       normal switch or thermo control thing so it comes on only when
       up to temperature. I like my engine to warm up quickly in winter
       as im running on gas, and it does...
       #Post#: 77164--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fan blade removal
   DIR By: estwdjhn
       Date: October 14, 2013, 2:19 pm
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       > Absolutely no savings to be made by doing this for such short
       trips
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       I'd beg to differ on that.
       Firstly, any time the fan is turning and isn't needed, it's
       wasting fuel (quite a lot of fuel actually - at full revs, it
       will be sucking several hp). I'd be fairly confident that unlike
       many "economy devices" an electric fan replacing a mechanical
       one delivers a measurable fuel saving. (I'd offer to be a guinea
       pig and do the measuring, but non of my motors have had
       mechanical fans for years - removing the fan is usually on of
       the first things I do on a series motor).
       Secondly, when the engine is cold (which will be most of the
       time on short trips) is a particularly bad time to be running a
       mechanical fan. Within reason, the hotter an engine is, the more
       efficient it is - so the longer an engine takes to warm up (cos
       someone is blowing cold air all over the place), the longer it
       spends running inefficiently.
       I'd think it's virtually impossible to overheat a std 2.25
       cooling setup without a fan in winter - my 2.6 (with no fan, and
       the same cooling system as a 2.25) can get a bit warm being
       thrashed up hills in the height of summer, but is otherwise
       fine. The only thing that could be unwise is very prolonged
       periods of idling as with no airflow through the radiator
       at-all, it might eventually overheat (depends on the ambient
       temperature, but probably very unlikely between now and next
       easter).
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