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Re: New Project. 1966 BRS "Noddy Van". JOY 430D
By: dazcapri Date: October 6, 2013, 3:50 am
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Fantastic project gonna be a lot of work and as an ex Daf 45
driver I think your choice of running gear is an excellent one
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Re: New Project. 1966 BRS "Noddy Van". JOY 430D
By: GlenAnderson Date: October 6, 2013, 4:54 am
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[quote author=dazcapri link=topic=6895.msg76600#msg76600
date=1381049454]
Fantastic project gonna be a lot of work and as an ex Daf 45
driver I think your choice of running gear is an excellent one
[/quote]
Ta. ;D
I used to drive Iveco and Daf 7.5 tonners regularly, and always
preferred the Dafs.
I'm considering the practicalities of buying and running a 45 as
a "Private HGV" for the duration of the parts scavenging portion
of the project, then breaking it for it's engine and box etc.
when the time comes. That would give me the ability to cart big
lumps about, as well as the chance to properly check out the
engine etc. We'll see. Depends on insurance costs mainly.
#Post#: 76831--------------------------------------------------
Re: New Project. 1966 BRS "Noddy Van". JOY 430D
By: dazcapri Date: October 9, 2013, 10:31 am
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I do an occasional bit of agency work for Ikea they replaced
automatic Iveco's with Daf's recently if you thought normal
Iveco's were bad you should try the auto's they're just
dreadful.A mate's running a Volvo F10 unit just for road runs
and Truck shows and his insurance is about £150
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Re: New Project. 1966 BRS "Noddy Van". JOY 430D
By: GlenAnderson Date: October 9, 2013, 1:38 pm
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[quote author=dazcapri link=topic=6895.msg76831#msg76831
date=1381332716]
I do an occasional bit of agency work for Ikea they replaced
automatic Iveco's with Daf's recently if you thought normal
Iveco's were bad you should try the auto's they're just
dreadful.A mate's running a Volvo F10 unit just for road runs
and Truck shows and his insurance is about £150
[/quote]
Never driven an automatic truck yet that wasn't a bag of utter
shite. Some of the semi-autos were ok-ish. EPS on Mercs wasn't
bad once you got used to the time it took to change and Eaton's
SAMT was reasonable when it worked. Hard to beat an Eaton
twin-split or Fuller range changer in experienced hands though.
Looks like it's going to cost me £550 or so for a years cover on
a 7.5 tonner unless I can find someone who understands hobby
use. Lack of any transferrable no claims is a big issue. Most
expensive quote so far was £1800!
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Re: New Project. 1966 BRS "Noddy Van". JOY 430D
By: GlenAnderson Date: October 9, 2013, 4:41 pm
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Bit of an update, if no actual movement yet...
I had the day off today, so spent the first part of the morning
phoning around for insurance quotes on a 7.5 tonner. My bright
idea of buying an engine and 'box donor and smoking about in it
for a bit might fall at this hurdle. My problem being that an
ideal donor is a 1996-2000-ish truck at the bottom of it's
depreciation curve, with a 150bhp motor and a five speed box. I
can buy a breaker for about a grand, or a tidy one for about
three (both plus vat). A decent engine, box and ancillaries is
going to cost me at least a grand, and that's before I have to
fork out for all the bits and bobs "extra" that I'm almost
certainly going to need. Having a drivable truck to use for
hauling bits about to and from sandblasting, paint etc. will
save me loads in time and aggro, but obviously leads me toward
the £3k mark rather than the £1K breaker. Insuring it with no
no-claims is likely to be at least £550 unless I get something
pre 1988 to qualify for classic truck insurance, and that is
going to be a bit too old to be an ideal donor vehicle when the
time comes.
After my joyous morning spent repeating myself and laughing at
quotes from the aforementioned £550 to an eye-watering £1850 I
decided to put that idea on the back burner for a bit and go
follow up a lead on another Noddy van that I had heard was lying
not too far from me. Armed with directions furnished by a
complete stranger on the internet, OS maps on my phone and the
dog as an excuse to be wandering around the countryside
uninvited, I made my way to the spot marked "X".
When I got there I found this:
HTML http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt313/glenanderson/JOY430D/PA091393_zpsc77d6bbe.jpg
It is complete. Well, ish. Anything glass has been broken, and
it's missing it's radiator and a few odds and sods, but there's
a whole lot more of it left than on my one!
To be honest, the timber frame is highly likely to be past
saving without a huge amount of work, and you'd likely have to
completely dismantle it in order to make it sound. However, it's
given me some fairly detailed pics, even though I couldn't get
too close, and it would be a treasure trove of spares if I can
negotiate it's purchase. I had a good chat with a fellow from a
neighbouring property who told me the landowner was presently
out of the country, but returned periodically and, whilst a bit
of a hoarder, was neither unapproachable nor unknown to part
with stuff. He took my contact details and promised to pass them
on. Now I know the location of the truck I can do my own
research into the ownership of the land to try and contact him
if the neighbour forgets or can't get hold of him. The van had
obviously been sat there for a very long time, and looked to be
in no immediate peril, but I did get the neighbour to promise to
intervene/contact me if it looked like there were plans to move
it.
I think, for the time being at least, I am going to focus on
getting my current property sold and the new one moved in to,
and the remains of my lorry safely moved there from the farm.
I'll also do a bit of digging with the land registry to try and
find a name and address for the owner of the abandoned one and
see if I can buy it, buy bits off it or at worst, take detailed
measurements and pictures of it. If I can buy it complete then
it'll give me a whole load of spares, as well as a blueprint for
constructing the new cab on my one. If I can't buy it whole,
then it would donate a bonnet, spare wheel, bumper and loads of
other sundry bits and bobs without being left insecure if the
owner valued it more as a shed than as an asset to sell.
Once I'm in the new house, and I've got an answer one way or the
other on the one I saw today, then I'll make a decision about
buying a 7.5 tonner or not. By then I may have exhausted SWMBO's
patience, available storage space and, more importantly, money!
;D
Cheers all, Glen.
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Re: New Project. 1966 BRS "Noddy Van". JOY 430D
By: Albert Ross Date: October 9, 2013, 4:51 pm
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Was there a visible registration on it? If so...... was it close
to yours?
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Re: New Project. 1966 BRS "Noddy Van". JOY 430D
By: GlenAnderson Date: October 9, 2013, 5:27 pm
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[quote author=Albert Ross link=topic=6895.msg76864#msg76864
date=1381355493]
Was there a visible registration on it? If so...... was it close
to yours?
[/quote]
No, no plates on it at all.
I would hazard a guess that it's a little later than mine. Based
entirely on the fact that mine has an auxiliary instrument gauge
very similar to a pre-1967 Land-Rover with moving magnet type
dials in it and this one had the remains of one very much like a
late 2A/Series 3 type. I know they made them from 1958 right up
to about 1976, but would take a stab at this one being slightly
later sixties than mine, but not seventies. Only guesswork mind
and "gut" feeling looking at the fixtures and fittings.
Just done a Land Registry search and found that the plot is down
with them as belonging to the neighbouring farm. That's not to
say that the owner of the lorry isn't as described by the chap I
spoke to today, but the fact that he might be a tenant rather
than the owner of the land means it could be worth my while
either going back and calling in on the farm, or writing a
letter to the farmer. I'll have a think about it and if I don't
hear anything back from anybody by the time I get moved in to
the new house I'll go back over there.
#Post#: 77427--------------------------------------------------
Re: New Project. 1966 BRS "Noddy Van". JOY 430D
By: GlenAnderson Date: October 17, 2013, 8:56 am
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Found a specialist insurance broker that caters for private HGV
use and, with a quote of £265, the idea of a 7.5/10 ton
donor/smokeabout is back on! :smilewide:
#Post#: 84752--------------------------------------------------
Re: New Project. 1966 BRS "Noddy Van". JOY 430D
By: GlenAnderson Date: February 3, 2014, 6:30 am
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No real movement yet. I have moved house, so that hurdle is
crossed, and once we've got some domestic issues sorted I'll be
able to physically progress things a bit with the lorry.
Currently, the farm is too boggy around where the lorry is
sitting to consider moving it just yet. There is no panic, the
farmer is pretty relaxed about it staying put; in his words
"it's not moved in twenty years, it can sit there as long as you
need it to".
I have been back to the abandoned one and put a note through all
the doorways nearby asking if anyone knows anything about it.
That has gleaned a name, but no contact details. A land registry
search shows the land to be registered to somebody else, but
with the same surname, so the next step I suppose is a letter to
the first, C/O the second and see where that gets me.
I have to clear a space here for it to sit first, and if I buy
the second one that's got to live somewhere too unless I break
it up where it's sitting (which might be the best solution). I
don't really need two, but access to the spares and patterns
would be great.
I am hoping to be able to get my one moved here by easter, and
to get it undercover if possible (or at least sheeted over).
Rest assured, once things start moving, there'll be an update!
#Post#: 84786--------------------------------------------------
Re: New Project. 1966 BRS "Noddy Van". JOY 430D
By: Jackual Date: February 3, 2014, 9:06 pm
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I like this, I'll keep an eye on this thread :thumbs:. There was
a restored one at last summer's Hebden Bridge vintage weekend.
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