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#Post#: 75117--------------------------------------------------
anti burst locks
DIR By: seriesewan
Date: September 18, 2013, 5:31 am
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I am in the market for some lockable anti burst locks.
I have an SWB series 3. Will the later ones of a boingy fit?
are there any modifications i need to do to the handle/ mounting
hole to fit them? or what part number should i be looking up to
find the genuine series ones.
my reasoning for wanting to fit them is my passenger door will
not stay on its main latch for love nor money
Cheers
Ewan
#Post#: 75126--------------------------------------------------
Re: anti burst locks
DIR By: NoelC
Date: September 18, 2013, 8:16 am
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You'll need to modify the doors for the lock barrels (the door
bottoms are different) and get the matching handle to latch
assembly as there are a couple of different types. I'll grab a
photo of an ex-MOD 109 to show you what I mean...
#Post#: 75127--------------------------------------------------
Re: anti burst locks
DIR By: Matthew
Date: September 18, 2013, 8:25 am
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Hello Ewan,
The locks from a very early Ninety or One Ten (those with the
recessed lift-up handles), or indeed any GS military boinger up
to the current day, should be the same as late Series locks with
regards to the fixings that hold them to the door. I found when
taking one of mine out that the fixing itself is quite strange -
inside the handle recess there is a banana shaped plate with 2
captive nuts lightly spot welded to it, because one physically
cant get ones hand up into the corner of the recess to put the
nut on manually - I only found they were welded and not merely
rusted on *after* I had cracked one off with a spanner and found
I couldnt get my hand in there to do it up again. So dont make
my mistake :haha:
However, you will probably have to take a hole-saw to the door
skin to make an opening for the lock barrel - the earlier type
striker locks had the barrel positioned in to protrude from the
handle recess (if they had a locking barrel at all), where as
the anti-burst ones have it moved over into the door panel.
You will of course need to change the striker plate as well,
I've never done it myself but apparently these are a sod to get
properly lined up - mine have lots of shims behind them. The
anti-burst locks have 2 latched positions - half closed and
fully closed. If yours is anything like mine, then the striker
wont come out far enough for the door to fully latch unless you
slam it into next week, due to the thickness of the door seals.
Whilst googling for the parts numbers for you, I found this
handy pictoral guide on the exact job you are doing:
HTML https://mud4fun.wordpress.com/2011/08/14/fitting-anti-burst-door-locks/
The parts numbers are listed in the comments - lock assemblies
395037 and 395038, strikers FQB000050 and FQB000040. When I
bought a new one for mine, it gave me the option of one with
lock barrels in it, or a "blank" one to transplant the old
barrels into. Based on my experience, the several hours you will
spend with tweezers and paperclips trying to persuade the barrel
and all its spring-loaded bits into the new lock aperture is not
worth the raised blood pressure that results.... just get
ready-assembled ones!
Hope this helps,
Matthew
#Post#: 75130--------------------------------------------------
Re: anti burst locks
DIR By: mr.scruff
Date: September 18, 2013, 8:39 am
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They aren't the same as one piece doors recessed handles or not,
so make sure if you buy from a breaker they are from either a
early 110 with split doors or a military job. One of the best
things I did to my old 2a
#Post#: 75132--------------------------------------------------
Re: anti burst locks
DIR By: Matthew
Date: September 18, 2013, 8:50 am
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Good spot Kev, I forgot there were a few one piece recessed
jobbies built inbetween the split recessed and the one-piece
protruding-handle doors!
#Post#: 75155--------------------------------------------------
Re: anti burst locks
DIR By: seriesewan
Date: September 18, 2013, 1:35 pm
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So I am right in thinking that they never fitted them to a
series
Ok I think I get the jist of it, they dont look to much of a
faff to fit if I get the right parts.
Does the bit poking in on the inside in the curved track act as
the internal lock?
#Post#: 75156--------------------------------------------------
Re: anti burst locks
DIR By: NUGGETT
Date: September 18, 2013, 1:42 pm
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--- Quote from: seriesewan link ---
>
> So I am right in thinking that they never fitted them to a
series
>
> You can get the strikers for them so .....
>
>
HTML http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/896/FQB000040-ANTI-BURST-TYPE-DOOR-STRIKER-PLATE-RH-.html?search=alr4652&page=1
>
> Does the bit poking in on the inside in the curved track act
as the internal lock? --------- Yes.
>
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 75164--------------------------------------------------
Re: anti burst locks
DIR By: Matthew
Date: September 18, 2013, 2:07 pm
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--- Quote from: seriesewan link ---
>
> So I am right in thinking that they never fitted them to a
series
>
--- End Quote ---
No, they were fitted to late model Series 3's (like mine), which
is why they were carried over onto very early boingies that
still had series split doors.
As Nugget confirms, the curved track bit is the lock, which is
simply a spring-loaded plate that slides across inside and
physically prevents the mechanism from moving - crude but
effective
#Post#: 75171--------------------------------------------------
Re: anti burst locks
DIR By: Drew
Date: September 18, 2013, 2:48 pm
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To be picky about it, they were actually fitted to civilian S3s
as early as 1979, when they lobbed them on the Stage One V8.
#Post#: 75193--------------------------------------------------
Re: anti burst locks
DIR By: NoelC
Date: September 18, 2013, 6:32 pm
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Here are a few pics of the type fitted to 31HF87, military 109
I've recently acquired.
[URL=
HTML http://s1031.photobucket.com/user/leyland510/media/31HF87/AntiBurstLockInside.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/y372/leyland510/31HF87/AntiBurstLockInside.jpg[/img][/URL]
[URL=
HTML http://s1031.photobucket.com/user/leyland510/media/31HF87/AntiBurstLockInside.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/y372/leyland510/31HF87/AntiBurstLockOutside.jpg[/img][/URL]
[URL=
HTML http://s1031.photobucket.com/user/leyland510/media/31HF87/AntiBurstLockInside.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/y372/leyland510/31HF87/AntiBurstLockLatch.jpg[/img][/URL]
There is another type of lock as fitted to boingys, not the
right type for a series:
HTML http://www.lrseries.com/resources/user/f0e8a3b53faa43f9c1073b8232420546395a9be3/MUC1030-LOCK-HANDLE-ANTI-BURST-TYPE.jpg
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