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Cookers / Stove Reviews
By: Stuey Date: August 29, 2013, 4:38 pm
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Buying the No2 cookset the other day at LATP made me realise how
many cookers / stoves I actually have! So what I thought I
would do was have a review of each and everyone, giving them
points on the Stuey rating (TM). Let's face it, most of us are
using them either to cook on whilst away camping or whilst
stopping for a brew whilst out greenlaning. Some may be good
for one purpose, whilst being absolutely bobbins for something
else. Hopefully, these reviews maybe able to help you out,
first up will be the Jetboil:
Jetboil
Like it implies on the box, it boils water quick, when tested
it boiled 450ml of water in just under 3 minutes, probably the
quickest of any of my stoves. The new updated model to my own
is now branded the Jetboil Flash, not much difference in
operation to my 1st generation version with the exception of a
safety feature so that you cannot accidentally turn the gas on
whilst stowed and a heat indicator that shows when the water is
boiled / coming up to temperature. I've only boiled water in my
own, as it's only been used when I'm out and about with the
motor to make brews.
Some facts and figures:
Cost (Cotswold camping) £105
Fuel cost £5 (230g)
Packed size 185mm x 107mm x 107mm
Assembled size (without stabliser) 107mm x 107mm x 310mm
Assembled size (with stabiliser) 180mm x 180mm x 310mm
Assembly time (old version) 20 Seconds
Assembly time (new version) 35 Seconds
Preparation time N/A
450ml Boil time 2minutes 50 seconds
1L Boil time N/A
Packed state:
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A small enough form factor that can be easily stashed away. The
burner and gas bottle are normally stored inside the cup, which
sometimes can be a problem if not dried off properly as rust
marks will appear at the bottom of the cup like so:
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Contents:
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Clockwise from top left: Lid, Burner assembly, Cup, Gas bottle,
Stabiliser feet.
Stabiliser feet were not standard with mine, they were given to
me by Gadget as he had 2. The lid has a hole in the centre which
you can utilise with an optional cafetiere assembly. I love my
coffee but I've never felt the need to purchase a cafetiere
assembly as it would dirty the inside of the main cup and be
something else to clean out.
Fully assembled:
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One of the features is that it's got it's own piezo ignition so
lighting is a doddle, however I did break one so my
recommendation would be to carry some other lighting implement
just in case. The cup fits and fixes to the burner assembly,
it's OK when new however the base of the cup can become dented
proving to be a bit of pain to fit.
Even though the cup has a 1 litre capacity, the max safe fill
is just under halfway down the cup (aprox 1 US pint, 450ml)
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Pros
Small form factor, quick to boil, built in lighter
Cons
Expensive, Gas cannisters can be a pain to find, Bends to
easily
Overall
Nice and handy to have in the back of the motor when greenlaning
/ stopping at the side of the road, makes a brew quick enough
and quick to assemble. I got mine new off of a friend who had
won it in a raffle, I've seen them second hand for £10 -£20,
however if I was buying one full price, I think I would give it
a miss.
Jetboils at Cotswold here
HTML http://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=products.search&source.x=0&source.y=0&searchvalue=jetboil
Stuey rating: 7 out of 10
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Re: Cookers / Stove Reviews
By: lozzaboy Date: August 30, 2013, 3:01 am
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Another :thumbs: for the Jetboil here, got one and used
numerouse times in my job when its been cold, wet and fed up and
needed a brew, or quickly get a boil in the bag on the go too as
they can be squeezed in there quite easily, brought mine a few
years ago new for £60, might still be able to get them at that
price if you look around in the smaller army surplus/independant
camping type shops
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Re: Cookers / Stove Reviews
By: Stuey Date: August 30, 2013, 3:36 pm
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Trangia
Today, I'm going to go through an old favourite of mine, the
Trangia. This particular one I must have had for 17 years now
and all through those years it hasn't given me one single
problem. It's simple, cheap to run, light and relatively small
for what you get, little has changed since it's first
introduction in 1925.
The basic cooker runs on methylated spirits and there are 2
sizes, the 25 and the 27. The 25 is supposed to be for four
people, whereas the 27 for 2 people. Nevertheless, what comes
in the basic kit is the same, the only thing that is different
is the size. The kit includes 2 pans, 1 frying pan and an
optional kettle. Kits are available with or without the kettle,
the inclusion doesn't change it's packed size, it's just
slightly more expensive. If you get one without the kettle,
there is always the option to buy one later, however I fully
recommend one if your making a lot of brews.
The burner itself uses methylated spirits, in which the pot
takes about 100ml and will last for 25-30 minutes, I use about
20ml to boil a pot of water. Lately, Trangia have added a other
optional burners (Gas, multi-fuel) to their range, I've never
bothered with these as the thing that attracts me to the Trangia
is its simplistic design. If we were away camping and space was
a premium, I would take the Trangia.
Some facts and figures:
Cost (27)(Cotswold camping) £55
Cost (27 with kettle)(Cotswold camping) £65
Fuel cost £2-3 (500ml)
Packed size 110mm x 200mm x 200mm
Assembled size 160mm x 200mm x 200mm
Assembly time 1 minute 10 Seconds
Preparation time N/A
450ml Boil time 5 minutes
1L Boil time N/A
Packed state:
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A bigger form factor than the jetboil, however what needs to be
taken into consideration is that it also includes 3 pans and a
kettle! Shown with optional fuel bottle, a sturdy item and
designed for easy filling of the Trangia
Contents:
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Top row, left to right: Base, windshield, 1 litre pan
Centre Row, left to right: Kettle, 1.1 Litre pan, Frying pan
(Non Stick, optional)
Bottom Row, left to right: Spirit burner, Simmer ring, Handle
The smaller of the pans has graduated marks on it:
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Assembled:
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Shown with Kettle
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Shown with frying pan
Simmer Ring:
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The simmer ring can sit on top of the burner, to regulate the
amount of fuel coming from the burner. Alternatively it can be
used in the fully closed position to extinguish the burner.
Pros
Cheap to run, simple, complete cooking system.
Cons
Bulky
Overall
A good all rounder that would be at home in the back whilst out
Greenlaning or at base camp cooking dinner. It's simple design
means not a lot can go wrong, and fuel is pretty cheap although
meths is not as common as it once used to be.
Trangia at Cotswold here
HTML http://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=products.search&source.x=0&source.y=0&searchvalue=trangia
Stuey rating: 8 out of 10
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Re: Cookers / Stove Reviews
By: genem Date: August 30, 2013, 4:45 pm
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The kids in the Duke of Edinburgh set-up I help out with get
gas-powered Trangias issued. Personally I think they are over
the top for a short camping trip if you've got to carry all the
gear - fine in a vehicle ! The only problem I've seen was when
a kid stuck the pan on the burner, at full chat, and was
distracted for a minute or so before putting any water in.
Result was a decent "pop" and a semi-circular hole in the bottom
of the pan. I now try to make sure they have liquid in the pan
before they light the gas...
My personal favourite is the MSR Pocket Rocket. Do you want me
to do a write up in the same format Stuey ?
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Re: Cookers / Stove Reviews
By: Stuey Date: August 30, 2013, 5:21 pm
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[quote author=genem link=topic=6584.msg72831#msg72831
date=1377899112]
My personal favourite is the MSR Pocket Rocket. Do you want me
to do a write up in the same format Stuey ?
[/quote]
Fill yer boots Gene :thumbs:
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Re: Cookers / Stove Reviews
By: chippers Date: August 31, 2013, 2:37 am
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I was looking at the jetboil before leafers. If anyone's
interested the Zip (a boiled down version perhaps?) is here at
£56
delivered.
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Re: Cookers / Stove Reviews
By: RMS Date: August 31, 2013, 3:25 am
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[quote author=genem link=topic=6584.msg72831#msg72831
date=1377899112]
My personal favourite is the MSR Pocket Rocket. Do you want me
to do a write up in the same format Stuey ?
[/quote]
If you do write this up, do you mind if we copy it to our Land
Rover Classic Camper forum (www.lrcc.org.uk)?
Stu is copying his write-ups there as it's pretty relevant
:thumbs:
Cheers,
Robin.
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Re: Cookers / Stove Reviews
By: genem Date: August 31, 2013, 5:04 am
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No probs. I'll dig out the camera etc this afternoon.
#Post#: 72861--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cookers / Stove Reviews
By: espacekiller Date: August 31, 2013, 5:33 am
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RE trangia. I have used these extensively, the non stick pans
are very good and save a load of grief when roughing it, but the
meths sometimes slow to boil, struggles to provide enough heat
if it is rough weather/windy or at altitude, I think the set up
with some sort of burner conversion is ideal.
I usually leave the kettle at home.
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Re: Cookers / Stove Reviews
By: Calum Date: August 31, 2013, 9:29 am
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I have used Trangias quite a bit, but I am not overly enamoured
with them. In driving rain and wind on top of a hill, the simple
burner doesn't always stand up all that well and boiling can
take an age. Even with the bulk, I still regularly use old
Primus stoves, as they work very well (though being high up are
also susceptible to wind problems). Optimus made/make some great
little stoves, especially the white fuel/petrol versions (9R,
111B etc). MSR Whisperlite or Dragonfly would be my choice for
backpacking, though I usually use a modern Prrimus gas burner
(don't own an MSR myself, but I have used them several times). I
have an early 70s Vango gas stove which was fantastic until the
burner disintegrated. It really could do with a new one
making/adapting to get it working again! It can be used on top
of the gas bottle, or with a long cansiter to the side, either
directly connected or via a braided pipe. Very handy as any size
of gas canister can be used so long as the thread is the same.
Folds down to an impressively small discus shape. Will try and
dig it out!
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