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       #Post#: 67176--------------------------------------------------
       Single or dual braking
   DIR By: Baldy 1
       Date: July 6, 2013, 9:22 am
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       On this rebuild of mine i have the choice of braking systems.
       Would you suggest the single or dual system?
       This will be powered by a 200tdi if this influences you.
       #Post#: 67188--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Single or dual braking
   DIR By: NiteMare
       Date: July 6, 2013, 11:56 am
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       my '65 109 is 200tdi powered and has single line non servo
       braking, it stops quite well and with effort will lock all four
       wheels
       my 88" bitsa is also 200tdi powered, has dual line servo
       assisted braking with 11" sls backplates on the front axle, this
       one has really light and powerful brakes which if i can maintain
       traction when hammering the brakes on will make the rear tyres
       hover  :eek: the problem then is the risk of
       squirming/turning/twisting when trying to stop in a straight
       line, i didn't bother fitting the PDWA (shuttle valve thing) in
       the system as i decided that would only be another place to
       create problems
       i reckon my bitsa has great brakes, my 109 on the other hand
       although stopping well could really do with improving and the
       effort required reducing
       personally i'd fit the dual line servo assisted system if you
       have it sitting around as the idea of dual line is to retain
       some braking should you suffer a failure on one axle or the
       other, not that rear axle brakes on thier own will be much use
       rofl
       #Post#: 67235--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Single or dual braking
   DIR By: NoelC
       Date: July 6, 2013, 5:06 pm
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       If you have the choice I'd go for the dual. I run series motors
       with both and the advantage with dual is at MOT time your hand
       brake effort only has to be 16% not 25% with a single line
       system.
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       ;D Other than that I
       can't say there's much to choose between them. Chances are most
       single line series Landys will have copper brake lines, chances
       of a rot through failure is minimal.
       #Post#: 67530--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Single or dual braking
   DIR By: NUGGETT
       Date: July 9, 2013, 12:44 pm
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       Can't say which is best as I only have one 'dual line'  leafer
       but ;
       --- Quote from: NiteMare link ---
       >
       >
       > :eek: the problem then is the risk of
       squirming/turning/twisting when trying to stop in a straight
       line, i didn't bother fitting the PDWA (shuttle valve thing) in
       the system as i decided that would only be another place to
       create problems
       >
       > i reckon my bitsa has great brakes, my 109 on the other hand
       although stopping well could really do with improving and the
       effort required reducing
       >
       > personally i'd fit the dual line servo assisted system if you
       have it sitting around as the idea of dual line is to retain
       some braking should you suffer a failure on one axle or the
       other, not that rear axle brakes on thier own will be much use
       rofl
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       ....recent events saw utter failure of the shuttle valve  (
       assuming thats the fella which is supposed to ^^^ do that)
       .......and , I must concur with Nitemare on the
       squirming/turning/twisting bit as I have found, now that I have
       the servo running off a proper vacuum pump rather than the
       woefully shite butterfly valve system.
       #Post#: 67599--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Single or dual braking
   DIR By: NiteMare
       Date: July 9, 2013, 5:54 pm
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       so you've had opportunity to learn cadence braking as a
       necessity as well then Nuggett  rofl
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