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Dambusters
DIR By: Redwinch
Date: June 11, 2013, 1:47 pm
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Seen as was passing through Germany on the way to Czech, I
thought it a trifle impolite not to visit one of the 617
squadrons successful raids, the Mohne dam
My Landy, wife and James in the large car park adjacent to the
dam
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Side view of the dam
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Explanation of construction
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Altogether a moving experience, no pun, as so many lost their
lives for this country at this very spot,
#Post#: 64111--------------------------------------------------
Re: Dambusters
DIR By: The Rhubarb Cowboy
Date: June 12, 2013, 9:31 am
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They made a good job of patching t hole up lad ::)
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Re: Dambusters
DIR By: Wooden
Date: June 12, 2013, 10:56 am
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Those dams are amazing feats of engineering, I'd love to be able
to go and see them. Thanks for posting this.
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Re: Dambusters
DIR By: s.o.t.d.
Date: June 12, 2013, 11:30 am
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--- Quote from: Wooden link ---
>
> Those dams are amazing feats of engineering, I'd love to be
able to go and see them. Thanks for posting this.
>
>
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Hint: Don't go in a Lancaster! ;D
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Re: Dambusters
DIR By: bubble
Date: June 12, 2013, 1:06 pm
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Would love to go and see that. In fact I always said if I had a
decent win on the Lottery I'd like to go and visit all the
historic WW2 sites around the world....especially the old U boat
bunkers. 8)
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Re: Dambusters
DIR By: vidal130
Date: June 12, 2013, 1:39 pm
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Great! :thumbs:
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Re: Dambusters
DIR By: Rory
Date: June 14, 2013, 2:31 am
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Cracking phots.
How is the whole dam busters event told in Germany?
Is it just recounted as a pure historical event or has it been
downplayed or overplayed or just not told outside of the areas
affected?
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Re: Dambusters
DIR By: Wooden
Date: June 14, 2013, 3:12 am
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^^^Interesting question.
Arguably, the success of the raids were over played here in
Blightly, with civilian casualties being the only lasting effect
of the raids, particularly the thousand or so that were killed
when the labour camps down-stream of the Mohne were obliterated.
Within four months industrial output in the Ruhr valley was
pretty much back to pre-raid levels.
It has been argued (by both Barnes Wallis as well as senior
German officers) that the raids were a missed opportunity, and
that had Bomber Command carpet bombed the area from high
altitude using conventional ordnance in the weeks/months that
followed the raid; the repairs to this industrial hub could have
been thwarted, and the lasting effects upon German industry far
greater.
The raids were, however, undoubtedly important for morale back
home.
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Re: Dambusters
DIR By: vidal130
Date: June 14, 2013, 1:32 pm
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The Germans did have to divert a massive amount of resources to
repair the damage, the fact they did it in the time they did
shows how important it all was to them. Those resources had to
come from other parts of Europe putting other projects behind.
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Re: Dambusters
DIR By: Wooden
Date: June 14, 2013, 2:07 pm
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^^^ Very true.
Another consequence was that Bomber Command began to take Barnes
Wallis seriously. BW had long been an advocate of building
'earthquake bombs' - huge ordnance with the potential to
annihilate a target if placed with accuracy. The trade-off
being, of course, that only one such bomb could be carried per
aircraft.
Bomber Command had never given BW's theory much credence,
however, after the Dam Buster operation (op. Chastise) all this
changed. The end result was the creation of the 'Tall Boy', and
ultimately the 'Grand Slam' - a 22,000lb beast of a bomb; used
something like fifty times during WWII to great effect. One of
the most famous (and strategically important) applications was
in the destruction of the Valentin U-Boat pens. The use of Grand
Slams on these targets continued into 1946 - over a year after
VE day.
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