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       #Post#: 60331--------------------------------------------------
       Starter motor
   DIR By: Andyjb
       Date: May 9, 2013, 1:12 pm
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       Hello All
       Thanks for previous advice. Mistys starter motor decided to play
       up today. Started at half five this morning okish, finished work
       and had to hand crank her. Just clicking at solenoid nothing
       else no turn spin etc not even with me hitting it with my
       stick.. Got to school and come to start her nothing not even
       able to crank. Got the AA out he tested all cables battery etc,
       even whilst i was turning ignition. Concludion that starter was
       playing up he tapped it whilst i turned ke. She roared into life
       no problem idled ok on petrol and also gas. Whats the best
       solution here ? New starter motor? Take off give it a spray? ll
       help suggestions welcome
       Thanks Andy
       #Post#: 60332--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Starter motor
   DIR By: NoelC
       Date: May 9, 2013, 1:34 pm
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       I guess that depends on your budget. Personally it's my largest
       irritation with a vehicle, unreliable starting. You could try
       pulling the starter, giving it a good clean and fitting new
       brushes to see if that helps. That would be the cheapest option.
       Alternatively if you're feeling flushed you could try one of
       these: www.ebay.com/itm/230620025076
  HTML http://www.ebay.com/itm/230620025076
       When the starter on the ambulance started misbehaving it was a
       bit of a no-brainer, being stuck 100 miles from anywhere in the
       US with no mobile phone service did sway my decision somewhat
       but with the usual suspects wanting 3 figures for a recon it
       seemed a more sensible bet.
       #Post#: 60334--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Starter motor
   DIR By: parksy64
       Date: May 9, 2013, 1:57 pm
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       That's what I have just fitted in the 86":
  HTML http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product/794/category/139
       Or diesel:
  HTML http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product/871/category/139
       #Post#: 60336--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Starter motor
   DIR By: NUGGETT
       Date: May 9, 2013, 2:29 pm
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       200tdi starter motor is what I have fitted to the 2.25d and has
       been for a long while now.
       It was one of the first pieces of advice I got when I started to
       'recommision' the NIAB and damn good advice at that!
       #Post#: 60516--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Starter motor
   DIR By: Andyjb
       Date: May 11, 2013, 11:28 am
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       Hello All
       Quick update on Mistys starter motor. Managed to get it off  the
       vehicle that top nut is a pain to get to. Pulled it apart gave
       the brushes a clean with emery cloth and were they contact. A
       good spray with 3 in 1 oil. Then tested it out with jump cables,
       it spun really fast.  So put it back in, connected everything
       back up and it kicked in. Tried it several times let her warm up
       and tried cooled down and tried. Kicked in every time. Result i
       say at the moment touch wood.
       Thanks for advice.
       Andy.
       #Post#: 60518--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Starter motor
   DIR By: parksy64
       Date: May 11, 2013, 11:54 am
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       :giddy: NIce one
       #Post#: 60527--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Starter motor
   DIR By: Andyjb
       Date: May 11, 2013, 1:59 pm
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       Hi Folks
       Been out and tried another three times and all seems well. It
       kicks in really quick hardly seems to turn and the engine is
       coming to life. Question is though is this a good thing or not?
       Thanks for all advice much appreciated.
       Andy
       #Post#: 60826--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Starter motor
   DIR By: Andyjb
       Date: May 14, 2013, 9:05 am
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       Hi All
       Decided not to play today. It tried to kick in and turn the
       engine. Not quite getting there then just a click and nothing.
       Got the mot at the end of week too.
       Andy
       #Post#: 60832--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Starter motor
   DIR By: LeftHandFred
       Date: May 14, 2013, 12:10 pm
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       Hi!  Sorry to hear of your tribulations.
       Did you put 3 in 1 on the brushes?  If you did, that could be
       part of the problem and you'll need to re-clean the brushes
       (isopropyl alcohol should work if they're not too badly oiled).
       Did you also clean the carbon deposits out of the gaps between
       the copper plates the brushes contact on?
       You note that your battery is good so I'm struggling to think of
       anything else - unless your battery has discharged itself?
       #Post#: 60886--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Starter motor
   DIR By: Bert the Bodger
       Date: May 15, 2013, 2:10 am
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       You may have done this stuff already but:
       Test battery with heavy discharge meter
       Clean battery terminals to bright metal
       Clean battery clamps likewise (internal clamping surfaces)
       Examine battery cables for continuity
       Remake earth to body and chassis
       Ensure solenoid ram free to do it's stuff
       Remake cable connections to solenoid
       Remake cable connection to starter
       Clean out between the segments on the commutator end of armature
       (as advised above)
       Clean surface of commutator segments to bright copper-use non
       conductive cleaner/abrasive
       Measure brushes to ensure they are still long enough!
       Hitting the starter motor in these circs does-possibly-two
       things: frees the brushes to make enough contact, restores the
       earth between the body of the starter and the engine
       Richard
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