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       #Post#: 60077--------------------------------------------------
       Landrover shaped hole on my driveway :-(
   DIR By: Ally
       Date: May 7, 2013, 3:26 am
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       Bloody thing...
       Started on the button yesterday, and tore up to the stables like
       a thing possessed - running lovely.
       Spent an hour messing around with the nag, got in, turned the
       key, and heard the fuel pump kick in, then pressed the start
       button, and it turned over but wouldn't fire. It's currently
       wearing a weedy little 063 battery, which lasted all of 20
       seconds before chucking the towel in. One very dead car. Fuel
       pump still engaging when I turned the key, but only a clunk when
       I pressed the start button.
       Just about to whip the battery off and charge it, to see if
       yesterday was just a blip, but I suspect I've broken it...
       Very very very cross...
       #Post#: 60080--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Landrover shaped hole on my driveway :-(
   DIR By: mr.scruff
       Date: May 7, 2013, 3:47 am
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       What engine has it got?
       #Post#: 60081--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Landrover shaped hole on my driveway :-(
   DIR By: Ally
       Date: May 7, 2013, 3:50 am
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       2.25 petrol
       I can't get the sodding battery leads off - not only are they
       welded on with years worth of crud, but I can't go at them with
       any enthusiasm, because of the wiring for the start button,
       which is getting right in the way, and making fireworks happen.
       I've cracked the back of my head on the bonnet twice now and Im
       EVEN crosser than I already was!
       #Post#: 60126--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Landrover shaped hole on my driveway :-(
   DIR By: Ally
       Date: May 7, 2013, 11:33 am
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       And having failed to get the battery disconnected (I had to
       dress up as a girl and go to a meeting) I thought I'd try and
       turn him on, just in case it was a random outburst and all was
       miraculously fine. Fuel pup still engages, but theres just a
       clunk when I press start button - and the green oil pressure
       light comes on...
       #Post#: 60131--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Landrover shaped hole on my driveway :-(
   DIR By: Andyjb
       Date: May 7, 2013, 12:22 pm
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       Hello Ally
       For what its worth when i had problems with Misty not starting i
       just checked power from battery to every connection and through
       the ignition switch. Even took jump cables straight to starter
       bypassing the starter solenoid. Mine was more electrical
       problems than fuel pump but maybe worth a check.
       Andy
       #Post#: 60133--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Landrover shaped hole on my driveway :-(
   DIR By: Calum
       Date: May 7, 2013, 1:00 pm
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       Dare I suggest the starting handle? Can be a bastard to start
       still at times, but always useful to have (and useful to
       practice if nothing else!)
       #Post#: 60134--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Landrover shaped hole on my driveway :-(
   DIR By: stevemac78
       Date: May 7, 2013, 1:01 pm
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       It does sound electrical. Possibly the solenoid not engaging or
       the starter not spinning. Try tapping the starter with a hammer.
       #Post#: 60135--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Landrover shaped hole on my driveway :-(
   DIR By: Doug_T
       Date: May 7, 2013, 1:03 pm
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       --- Quote from: Ally link ---
       >
       > 2.25 petrol
       >
       > I can't get the sodding battery leads off - not only are they
       welded on with years worth of crud, but I can't go at them with
       any enthusiasm, because of the wiring for the start button,
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That might have something to do with it, firstly crappy old
       battery cables do nothing for your starting prowess and secondly
       a Series 3 shouldn't have a starter button (or an electric pump
       on a 2.25), so it sounds as though you also have non standard
       wiring.
       I'm mentally busy at the moment, but I'm just along the M4 and
       may have some free time next week if you need a hand.
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       Re: Landrover shaped hole on my driveway :-(
   DIR By: LeftHandFred
       Date: May 7, 2013, 2:33 pm
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       Ouch. Will refrain from posting an inappropriate joke in
       sympathy as Smokie decided to do a similar thing in winter...  A
       new heavy duty battery solved the issues (I think it's a Yuasa
       marine battery and was basically the biggest (in terms of
       cranking amps and amp hours) I could fit!!).
       As suggested, it sounds as if either your battery is dying or
       the starter/starter solenoid is giving up (for the solenoid, tap
       it with hammer or largish spanner as suggested but not too hard
       as you don't want to crack the housing!).  It may be worth
       checking your battery with a battery tester, if you can get hold
       of one (a multimeter across the terminals will give you an idea
       as you attempt to start it but is no substitute for a proper
       battery tester).
       Can you get a ring spanner on to the terminal clamps?  If so,
       I'd suggest wrapping the rest of the spanner with insulating
       tape (for peace of mind!) and seeing if you can free the clamps
       off .
       If the bolts on the clamps are seized, clean them up a bit with
       a small wire brush (I use a diddy brass wire brush, not much
       bigger than a tooth brush) and hit them with some penetrating
       oil morning and night (and maybe for another morning and night)
       before giving it another go. If your battery leads are long
       enough, it may be worth cutting the clamps off & replacing with
       new (or just replacing the battery cables in their entirety).
       #Post#: 60146--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Landrover shaped hole on my driveway :-(
   DIR By: Ally
       Date: May 7, 2013, 3:18 pm
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       Hi All - thanks for the advice/support/lack of 'bloody women'
       jokes!
       Someone has obviously had a load of fun playing around with this
       vehicle - starter button et al - nowt like an enthusiast to cock
       something up very satisfactorily. I cant grumble as I carried
       out a few 'subtle' modifications to my MGF -and are probably the
       reason why it expired in a puff of green smoke on the A40 last
       year.
       The battery is tiny - and I knew it needed replacing. I'm going
       to get tit out tomorrow by hook or by crook - had the genius (I
       think!) idea of wrapping the spanner in insulating tape to break
       the fireworks display/head cracking/cursing cycle.
       Starting handle is in the back. I did look at it today...
       I was very adept at the solenoid tapping trick with my last one
       - that was its only quirk. I even checked with the ex-husband,
       who confirmed that it didn't wander at all until you got to
       55mph, which explains why this one shocked me a bit.
       Doug, it'd be fab to have someone who knows the breed to come
       and have a look at some point. No pressure though, as I will get
       a mechanic out  this week to sort the current issue (if a new
       battery doesn't do it)
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